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Joe, I totally agree with your pesticide comments. That's probably all we agree on. Keith, nothing you're capable of makes me uncomfortable. It just makes me shake my head. Trump is your guy: stupid, loud-mouthed, abusive, unhinged,and uninformed. Mark Twain had a good phrase for both of you: a quadrilateral, astronomical, incandescent SOB.

Keith, you know f**k all about my politics, and neither drug dealing nor Obama have f**k all to do with a discussion of pesticides. Time to check your meds - your recent posts suggest that you are going off the rails again.

Insecticides, herbicides, fertilizers, large scale, largely hedge rowless farming is here to stay. If we had the 1960 average corn yield of 60-80 buschel to the acre or 35 buschel wheat to the acre we would have $20 corn and $30 wheat. Your $200 a week food bill would zoom to $800-1,000 a week. Organic sounds great, just like green energy, or free love but we can�t afford it without a drastically altered lifestyle. And I note people are much in favor of altering other people lifestyle, not their own.

As to poisoning wildlife I am completely against it but I suspect most cases are accidental in this country. Exceptions can occur and should be dealt with. But just as windmills kill flying birds, by accident, I don�t expect those wanting to use them to make electricity to stop killing birds or build a 300� in diameter bird cage around the wind mill. . And the solar mirror works, in California vaporized birds caught in their beam when making electricity.

Just like liberal thinking has screwed up America Insecticides and herbicides are screwing up the environment...no if and or buts about either.

That's amusing LGF. All I know about your politics is what you post here on this forum, and none of it has ever been flattering or supportive of Conservatives or Republicans. Remember that it was you who diverted a conversation on pesticides into a diatribe about George Bush pardoning a farmer who inadvertently killed a few eagles when he poisoned some coyotes in a misguided attempt to save a flock of turkeys.

But there's yet another disingenuous sign that someone is a Libtard... they try to deny patently obvious signs of their politics, and they even try to deny their own previous words. Like Jagermeister suddenly telling us that he voted for Trump after months of bashing him, or that he kept one nice SLE double after years of admitting he no longer had any... you're not fooling anyone either.

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Bob always has something relevant to say.

Well, I don't know how relevant ef bombs are, but they do seem to coincide with bash America tendencies.

Good points, Jon. For most Iowa farmers, it's a bad year if they don't get 200 bu/acre corn.

Back in the mid-80's, when the Conservation Reserve Program started, I enjoyed hunting pheasants in thousands of acres of grass that had replaced corn and soybean fields in Iowa. But at the same time, because farmers were working less land, they were working it more intensively. Fencerows going away, small wet spots tiled away, little grassy draws plowed up. And as those micro-habitats disappeared, I said to myself: "God help the pheasants if CRP goes away!" Well, there's far less CRP these days, and far fewer pheasants.

A couple months ago, it was the wife's turn behind the wheel as we drove south through central IL. All at once, something odd struck me. I hadn't seen a fence surrounding a field for miles. That's been happening in Iowa too, but the near total absence of fences really caught my attention. Well, they only get in the way if you're a farmer. And if you're not running livestock in the fields to scavenge a little grain after you've harvested, you have no need for them.

SOO... as a civilization we forge ahead with 'progress' - new scientific discoveries and developments. Then we belatedly discover the law of unintended consequences. By the time this problem has been identified and 'science' has been developed to illustrate the threat, the industry that the new development has spawned is heavily invested in production and distribution and lobby against any change.

This is clearly a formula for assured, long term disaster. I m not a political person - not on purpose, anyway - but this is clearly a political problem, and our political system is broken.