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Westley Richards invented the A&D boxlock and the quality of their older BLEs is excellent. I think, if it conforms to the stated specs, that it would be a very well made, well balanced gun.


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The market values Westley Richards at Brand Value level two (BV2) which is 3/4 of the value of BV1. Midgrade BLE's have Original Quality grade of six (OQ6). Current Condition seems close to level three (CC3 - Significent use).

BV2-OQ6-CC3 = $3,480. Remember this number is a value, not a price. Price is a number agreed to by a willing seller and willing and able buyer.

It is a nice, attractive gun and would likely prove sufficiently robust to provide a lifetime of loyal service.

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I have a wonderful WR 16 ga boxlock ejector that has only one screw in trigger plate,most I have seen have a separate screw to remove trigger group.Bobby

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How much "Value" would you all add to a gun if it came in it's makers case that was canvas? Or if it was leather? Or, if it was oak and leather?

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Originally Posted By: rtw
How much "Value" would you all add to a gun if it came in it's makers case that was canvas? Or if it was leather? Or, if it was oak and leather?


Cases probably don't add much when they are with the gun. You might add $350-500 depending on the case condition and accessories. However, if you want a case they can get expensive. Some maker's cases are difficult to find.

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In my view it depends on the gun and the case. Average every day gun, average case, not much increase in value. Top drawer stuff cased in O&L, accessories etc add a fair bit of value.


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Originally Posted By: rtw
How much "Value" would you all add to a gun if it came in it's makers case that was canvas? Or if it was leather? Or, if it was oak and leather?


I take kind of a mixed view on this issue. Basically, the gun and case should "go together." A lower OQ and/or lower CC gun in a high condition O&L case is sorta like caramel sauce on sauerkraut --- some things just don't go. A higher OQ grade and /or higher CC gun in a ratty deal (canvas over softwood) case equally doesn't go. The higher the OQ grade the higher the market's expectation that it will come with suitable case.

Usable cases seem to range from about $100 to $800. If the gun comes with a case of higher value than fits to the gun, you could expect to pay the difference in retail value of the case. If the gun comes with a case of value less than you can reasonably expect, you may give it a ding equal to the difference in retail value.

Just about every auction has a plethora of cases. Track the values for a few auctions and you will develop a good idea of case values.


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That's one heck of a nice looking gun and reeks with quality. I have no idea what the market will bear but it is definitely a couple notches above the standard issue Birmy boxlock. I'd be proud to own it. Good luck!


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An interesting argument in favor of cases:

https://www.theexplora.com/the-case-for-a-gun-case/

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Boy I miss Simon Clode's writing on "The Explora."

No one could write about guns or the gun business like Simon.

rtw, if you are interested in purchasing the gun and have questions you should by all means E-mail Ricky Bond with Westley Richards there in the U.K. If you need Ricky's E-mail address let me know.

I have bought from Ricky/Westley Richards and the experience was great. L.D. will help out with everything on this side too. Ricky and L.D. and the whole W.R. operation are easy to work with - 1st class all the way.

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