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Is "fixed lock" another term for "box lock"?
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fixed lock in this case means it is not a drop lock, just a standard boxlock.
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I'm completely ignorant on English guns, but is it common to not list what it was reproved for? Does one just assume 1oz. loads with at 2.75" chambered English gun?
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Given the age of this gun, it would have been built, I believe, with 2 1/2" chambers. It is described now as a 2 3/4" chambered gun. So, my supposition is that the chambers were opened to 2 3/4" and the gun was reproofed afterward as it should have been.
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RTW,
From what I can tell, the Heronshaw model was just a standard WR A&D action with a style of engraving and maybe a little better finish. Usually it will have the WR C-dolls head fastener. The price seems high. WR also built a connaught model boxlock starting in the 60's. These are based on Webley and Scott action.
I see you are looking at WR guns on their website. Have you looked at WR guns available for sale in the states?
Ken
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Hi Ken,
Yes, I am looking all around-numerous sites have them for sale here in the US with Guns International being a prime listing location, I gather, for dealers to use.
I have not decided to purchase anything at this point. I have always admired the storied name that WR has, their highly regarded boxlocks-especially those with a scalloped back to the action and the neat drop locks design.
I have no basis for understanding how the market values their guns, or how to judge if any one gun is priced fairly or not. So, I am in the early research phase. I am not a collector-just a guy that likes to hunt with good solid perfuming and light weight guns that look great also.
If you have any suggestions for me, I am all ears and would appreciate any and all advice.
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Hi Ken,
I have no basis for understanding how the market values their guns, or how to judge if any one gun is priced fairly or not. So, I am in the early research phase. I am not a collector-just a guy that likes to hunt with good solid perfuming and light weight guns that look great also.
I found this book extremely informative when it comes to evaluating boxlocks, arguably (by those more qualified than me) the best bang for your buck English guns out there at the moment.
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Thanks, Dan-just received my copy a few days ago.
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From Ad;
"Original 28” barrels which have recently been reproved, with 2 3/4” chambers and are choked 1/4 and 3/4."
This would indicate it was reproved after the chamber lengthening. Of course would be good to make certain this is true. I am not certain on reproof but original proof was normally 1 1/8 oz for a 2˝" chamber & 1Ľ oz for a 2 3/4" chamber.
Miller/TN
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