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#515007 05/31/18 10:06 PM
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On a G&H Model 54 Winchester in 400 Whelen. Looks like a Hutton stock to me, what do you guys think? (Please excuse the background)




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Howdy irs,
No doubt that the workmanship shown in your photos looks to be excellent, for sure! The inletting looks equally as good as that of my 'Hutton' stock. The forearm tip is not attached in the same manner as the one on my 'Hutton' marked stock. The tip on my stock is either just glued-on flat (doubtful though), or held on supported by a short wooden dowel, or dowels, or steel pin(s). Of course, this doesn't mean that Hutton couldn't have changed methods of attachment at some point, based on his employer's desires at the time. I have seen this method of attaching a forend tip somewhere before, its not in either one of M. Petrov's two books, but can't remember where or when right now.

The main feature this stock seems to be missing is the 'Hutton' stamp on the action flat behind the recoil lug. When he started using that stamp is unclear. I believe that my Hutton rifle stock may have been made during his time at National Target Supply, or after. My rifle is a shortened action Model 70 made in 1938 with a 1942 barrel. This most readily suggests the stock was made after 1942.

All I can add is 'could be"! Thanks for posting the intrigue, irs.
If only they could talk!

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Why would you suggest that a G&H gun be stocked by Hutton? Just a question.

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Originally Posted By: eightbore
Why would you suggest that a G&H gun be stocked by Hutton? Just a question.

http://www.amoskeagauction.com/109/182.php

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Why would you suggest that a G&H gun be stocked by Hutton? Just a question.

http://www.amoskeagauction.com/109/182.php


Thanks for the ref., irs! Also to further support that contention, I have an old issue of an NRA magazine from Jan., 1939, Vol. 87, Number 1, that shows John Hutton prominently on the cover. Inside it states under contents "Cover Photo - Taken in the shop of the National Target & Supply Co., Washington, D.C. Picture shows John Hutton, formerly of Griffin & Howe, checkering a rifle stock."

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I have that cover and have not made the G&H connection. Sorry.

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Here are some better photos. Perhaps, owing to the stamped "400 Whelen" and lack of a G&H barrel number it is actually a National Target and Supply Co. rifle? Anyone have one of their catalogs?





[img]https://i.imgur.com/FkRnyAal.jpg?1[/img]

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Originally Posted By: Clint M
Howdy irs,
No doubt that the workmanship shown in your photos looks to be excellent, for sure! The inletting looks equally as good as that of my 'Hutton' stock. The forearm tip is not attached in the same manner as the one on my 'Hutton' marked stock. The tip on my stock is either just glued-on flat (doubtful though), or held on supported by a short wooden dowel, or dowels, or steel pin(s). Of course, this doesn't mean that Hutton couldn't have changed methods of attachment at some point, based on his employer's desires at the time. I have seen this method of attaching a forend tip somewhere before, its not in either one of M. Petrov's two books, but can't remember where or when right now.

The main feature this stock seems to be missing is the 'Hutton' stamp on the action flat behind the recoil lug. When he started using that stamp is unclear. I believe that my Hutton rifle stock may have been made during his time at National Target Supply, or after. My rifle is a shortened action Model 70 made in 1938 with a 1942 barrel. This most readily suggests the stock was made after 1942.

All I can add is 'could be"! Thanks for posting the intrigue, irs.
If only they could talk!


http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=344403&page=all


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National Target and Supply advertised in there sales literature that all there stockmakers put there name inside the inletting as a further assurance of quality.

Does the cheek piece bead form a little curly que (technical term) on the front of the comb nose? All the Huttons I have seen have this little detail.

John

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