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Craig, I beg your pardon, but did I call for new laws? What makes me say guns aren't necessarily benign is the fact that so many people nowadays are slaughtered with them. In the "good ole days" I mentioned, this didn't happen. I don't count myself as one of those bent out of shape by societal change. I don't accept the notion that public schools are "force-feeding" some harmful agenda to our kids. The kids I know today in the places I've lived are getting an education far superior to what my generation received. Your whole view of the world is badly distorted by you inability to pay any detailed attention to what other people are saying. You read in what you're predisposed to think.As Wonko says, " I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

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Keith - I am unfortunately a poor speller and usually take the time to review my grammar and spelling. You would think I would be better at this having been married to a English teacher for 36 years. I am however happy that I am able to make a point without belittling or name calling or writing a diatribe. Keith, would you please write another few pages. I am sure everyone is just waiting to read more of your words of wit. You and Donald are "two peas in a pod".


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Craig, your comment, "You're an earther" is symptomatic of your inability to read and follow a line of thought. Somewhere you picked up a jargon that names some things that annoy you. Once you found a name for them, you stopped thinking altogether. Putting a label on someone is an ignorant person's way of dismissing him without having made any effort to understand what he's saying. As for my vehicles, for road trips I drive a Bradley; around town I prefer a humvee.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
... Somewhere you picked up a jargon that names some things that annoy you. Once you found a name for them, you stopped thinking altogether. Putting a label on someone is an ignorant person's way of dismissing him...


Nah Bill, its just a short cut for categorizing people whose opinions are wrong (in your opinion) and you do not wish to waste your time answering them again and again. Some folks feel the need to fight every battle. I don't...Geo

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Geo, The emergency conditions in climate, ocean health, air quality, water supply( and frequent flood disasters) and most importantly over population are not my opinions. They are matters of verifiable fact. If that makes me an earther, I'm glad to be one. For all the complaining on this site about about the deterioration of game populations and hunting access, I'm mildly surprised how few posters seem to see this as issues that need addressing. Read Aldo Leopold. Read Wendell Barry. Tell us it's just their opinions.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Craig, I beg your pardon, but did I call for new laws? What makes me say guns aren't necessarily benign is the fact that so many people nowadays are slaughtered with them....

....I don't accept the notion that ...... schools are "force-feeding" some harmful agenda to our kids. The kids I know today....

....You read in what you're predisposed to think.As Wonko says, " I can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

Bill, I didn't make you type that you voted for hill because of her qualifications. I'd hope you meant that you agreed with the laws and regulations that her policy would bring, and not that she was only qualified to talk our ears off? When it comes to schools, I can't visit them all. I comment from the perspective of looking at syllabus', homework, text books, etc. of kids, and now grandkids over a good few decades. I can also read school district and union mission statements, can see school district policy decisions, college and university policies and activism. Don't tell me your feelings that I'm wrong, show me the facts about why I'm wrong. What do you think, do we need to budget for homosexuality awareness in kindergarten, and eliminate shop classes for high schoolers? I couldn't care less if a young budding dem or Republican figures out that they're a natural in auto shop or wood shop, but you're the fellow, by your vote, that wants them to get 'free' college, right? We all know the value of anything that's free, eh?

I think the good doctor has some merit with that quote, but shouldn't your explanations be more than just feelings? Please don't suppose that you can get away with, lacking facts and figures, saying that guns can slaughter. I asked a bit ago if there was some possible way that you could be meaningfully anti criminal, but the definition of meaningful will likely be clouded by your feelings about pc. What would happen if grade school kids had to discuss, 'don't tread on me', instead of ethnic revisionist history and guilt trips. You can interpret as you see fit why I use labels. No matter the topic, you've been consistently on a wrecking the earth mantra lately, haven't you? I might remind you that I've explained in the past that I use sarcasm to point out hypocrisy and double standards, right? Where you see labels and my faults, I see things you might consider food for thought.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
....For all the complaining on this site about about the deterioration of game populations and hunting access, I'm mildly surprised how few posters seem to see this as issues that need addressing....

Here's a little sarcasm Bill. Some might say the hunting's never been better if you have the will to admit it. I'm completely unsurprised at how no dems see places like chicago and baltimore as issues that need addressing.

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Keith - I am unfortunately a poor speller and usually take the time to review my grammar and spelling. You would think I would be better at this having been married to a English teacher for 36 years. I am however happy that I am able to make a point without belittling or name calling or writing a diatribe. Keith, would you please write another few pages. I am sure everyone is just waiting to read more of your words of wit. You and Donald are "two peas in a pod".


Tom, I find it amusing that you can tell us that you are able to make a point without engaging in a diatribe of belittling or name calling. All we need to do is go as far back as your last post to see you belittling Trump supporters and even comparing them to supporters of the genocidal dictator Adolf Hitler. Wow, that was easy!

Then your diatribe about Trump being a ruler rather than a leader sounded like a description of the gay anti-gun ex-president who said "I have a pen, and I have a phone..." when speaking of his intent to bypass Congress to impose his Leftist and Socialist will.

I wouldn't worry about not knowing the difference between "you're" and "your" in spite of being married to an English teacher. Hell, up until about a year ago, nearly every post submitted by retired English teacher rocky mtn bill was laced with spelling or grammatical errors. He apparently finally took my repeated advice to get his grandkids to show him how to use a spell-checker and to get someone who wasn't illiterate to proof read his posts. He sure wasn't making a case for teacher pension increases, and should be embarrassed to take his pension.

It would also appear that he lied about having fun debating me since he has taken his usual tail-between-the-legs approach to discussing his unexplainable need to concoct a bullshit story rather than simply admitting he didn't know alternate terminology for a gun screw. We see this sort of thing all the time from our resident Libtards, but you feel that it is conservatives and Trump supporters who are unethical. Billy thinks guns have become more dangerous since the 1950's... But you guys seem to be doing a great job of shooting yourselves in the foot with your own words.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Craig, I'm curious to know what a forum cop/moderator might be. Please explain to an old man who doesn't spend time on right wing talk show palaver. I still haven't figured out what a snowflake is.


If I were a forum cop/moderator I'd have thrown your insane liberal/communist azz off here years ago...

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Originally Posted By: Tom C
I always like the way Trump supporters try to prove his morality by saying other people are more unethical. The more I listen to his supporters, the more I think of how Hitler's followers were unable to distinguish moral from immoral, right from wrong, ethical from unethical. It's a support without questioning or reasoning. They either see nothing wrong with his actions and attitudes or feel overlooking them is justified for the "greater good". To me, he is the worst president in history. He doesn't understand the difference between a ruler and a leader. He rules through a self-centered ignorance and has no understanding how the average american lives.


The interesting thing about this diatribe is the exact words could be used as a critique of Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama and their supporters.


The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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