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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Rudeness, bullying, serial self-abasement on keith's part, have been part of the forum, now considerably less, but I stand by not seeing evidence of anti-gunners here. The notion anti-gunners are those not thinking as keith is absurd.

I'll say this about jager: I'm as curious as others about his personal circumstances but for the way he's insulted he acts with praiseworthy decorum, an example for all of us. No one's perfect; we're all different.


He doesn't act with praiseworthy decorum King. You misunderstand his behavior. He purposely trolls, inciting responses. He adds NOTHING to a double gun conversation.

And my response to the first part of your post is the same as to JM, although somewhat more polite. Keith sees anti gunners here because supporting gun control is supporting the eventual confiscation of all guns in private hands. Based on the evidence, there is no reason to believe they will ever be satisfied until all guns are in government hands.

And where is the outrage about decorum being directed at JBRooster for his emphatic and repeated "F$CK YOU" to Keith, echoing Bob Cash's post of the same. JB, with 20 posts here, wants to add to the conversation with that????

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Jager, I like you for your manners and your posts have been informative to me. We're trying to keep politics off the forum and overall we're doing a good job. At no time has there been less political comment and more tumultuous goings-on about gun control. That's remarkable constraint and I hope others want to keep it that way.

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Keeping politics off the forum might encourage the decorum here, but just the same this is a gun forum. If we ignore the politics which control our American right to bear arms we may well lose that right. We need the political discussion and we'd be fools to fail to voice our 2nd amendment support. Contributions to the NRA political victory fund are likely our best bet to protect our constitutional right. The anti's know the power of the NRA; that is why their hatred of the organization is so vocal...Geo

King,since you are on our side, why not follow JM's lead and make a NRA donation yourself?

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
Keeping politics off the forum might encourage the decorum here, but just the same this is a gun forum. If we ignore the politics which control our American right to bear arms we may well lose that right. We need the political discussion and we'd be fools to fail to voice our 2nd amendment support. Contributions to the NRA political victory fund are likely our best bet to protect our constitutional right. The anti's know the power of the NRA; that is why their hatred of the organization is so vocal...Geo

King,since you are on our side, why not follow JM's lead and make a NRA donation yourself?


George...what an excellent post. Polite, and yet on point. Thank you.


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I've done better than an NRA donation, Geo. NRA is one of best-funded lobbies in North America. As I do with all institutions I care about, socially and politically, I criticize and encourage according to need. You've forgotten my correspondence with NRA of how we thwarted antis in Canada, which was posted here, in the same way I've brought my opinions to the three political parties here on the issue. Little acts of faithfulness are more important in the long run than sending off a check/cheque. (I have contributed financially to American foundations i.e. wounded warriors, because of a shared interest with a deceased member here.)

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Informed, positive and constructive criticism of our institutions is indeed an important part of supporting them. I won't disagree with you there. I still don't forget much and I certainly remember your criticism of Wayne LaPierre with respect to his advice to government about a good man with a gun. Donations are strictly a personal thing...Geo

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Originally Posted By: canvasback
Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
Keeping politics off the forum might encourage the decorum here, but just the same this is a gun forum. If we ignore the politics which control our American right to bear arms we may well lose that right. We need the political discussion and we'd be fools to fail to voice our 2nd amendment support. Contributions to the NRA political victory fund are likely our best bet to protect our constitutional right. The anti's know the power of the NRA; that is why their hatred of the organization is so vocal...Geo

King,since you are on our side, why not follow JM's lead and make a NRA donation yourself?


George...what an excellent post. Polite, and yet on point. Thank you.


It was an epic drive. Unfortunately it was in the wrong fairway.

Please stay on topic.


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There are a few things a lot of people need to keep in mind. Our Constitution does not say one word about the "Right" to hunt or bust clay targets. It says a "Well Regulated Militia" being necessary for the freedom of the country it gives;

"The People" the right to "KEEP & BEAR" arms.

We actually have a constitutional "RIGHT" to own & bear an AR-15, but not necessarily a Purdey or Parker. When the part which the constitution protects is done away with, we have not a snowballs chance in H**L on the others, all the Anti's want is a foot in the door, the rest will follow.

To say there has never been any "ANTI" posts on this forum is either Total Ignorance or an Outright LIE, my take is that it is most likely the later.

The People are the same ones as in all other parts of the constitution, they are NOT the Army or the National Guard or Reservists, they are the private Citizens. Freedom of speech does not grant the Government the right to publish our Newspapers.

There is a vast difference in a Citizen & a Subject. Our constitution was set up that the people should be Citizens, not Subjects. It was intended our "Government" should be a subject of the People, not the other way around. In spite of his Infamous statement at Gettysburg "That Government Of the People, For the People & By the People" should not perish from the land ole Lying Lincoln set the Ball in Motion to take control from the People & put in in the hands of the Central Government. We've been going Downhill Ever since.


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The gun control movement is making real progress this time. The camel's nose is well under the tent flap.

We should all express our support by selling a Winchester Model 21 and making a donation to the NRA political victory fund...Geo

See, I'm back on topic!

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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
The gun control movement is making real progress this time. The camel's nose is well under the tent flap.

We should all express our support by selling a Winchester Model 21 and making a donation to the NRA political victory fund...Geo

See, I'm back on topic!


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