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My personal experience is, I had a Model 21-1 made for me with a set of 30" 20 gauge and twenty eight gauge barrels.
I did ok shooting the 28 gauge set but could not hit the broad side of a barn with the 20's.
Traded it on my Boss and was a happy day for me.
I had heard of issues with barrel regulation on these CSMC 21's.
When I ordered I discussed this with CSMC.
Beautiful gun. Would I get another? Yeah probably, but would send off to verify barrel regulation.
Mike Proctor
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I currently have an order with CSMC for a grade 6 Model 21 3" 20 gauge, two barrel set, 30" & 32" vent rib. Both sets are to be choked much tighter than any manufactuter ever did in the originals, especially Winchester, which I have found are more openly choked than other makes. So barrel regulation will be an important issue for me.
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I'm pretty sure Winchester New Haven only made about 130 sets of 30" 20 gauge barrels. To the best of my knowledge (hang out, the experts  will chime in soon about every other makers guns that offered 32"ers) there are ZERO Winchester 21's, 20 gauge with 32" tubes. What a terrific option/feature. How great for you.
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I think the 30" and 32" set will be fantastic. If I may ask, what will you be using the tight chokes for?
Hope you will post pictures when you get it.
Even though I did not have good luck with mine I would probably buy another. But would make sure it was regulated properly.
I had heard this was an issue with these guns. But there are guys out there winning tournements with CSMC Model 21's.
Beautiful guns.
I also once owned a CSMC Fox CE grade, the second one ever made.
Beautiful gun indeed. Wish I had that one back.
Mike Proctor
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I am an avid turkey hunter, usually hunt three states each year with six tags, but I have hunted in Florida, Alabama, Tennessee, New York, Missori, Ohio, West Virgina, Pennsylvania when I was younger. I did own a Benelli 3 1/2" back in 1994, long gone, but fell for the SxSs and never looked back. I have searched for years to find a gun to fit my needs, even bid on a Fox CE last fall, came in second highest bidder. The Fox though had only one full choke barrel (.032), as I recall, some pitting, reamed out bores, short chambers and old wood for over $23,000 with premium. Glad now I didn't win! The only gun, I decided, to fit the bill was my first choice for years now, the 21. Built to shoot the modern 3" loads and I just love the 21s vent rib barrels. I want a tight choked semi-auto performance, but in a SxS configuration.
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Good morning Mike While expert John Roberts might tell you these guns are only good for bragging and pretending to shoot, I am in awe of CSMC's American manufacturing ability to produce such a fine line of absolutely beautiful, spectacular shooting doubles. Hey Only, it's probably a good thing you only have six tags. If I read it correctly on this thread, an expert claims that the CSMC 21's disintegrate after just a few more trigger pulls. When do you get your new gun?
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I know what buzz meant, but had never heard of it until I looked it up. Good comparison.
SRH
I had to do the same. And yup.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Hey John, where did your post go? No you havent bruised my ego and Im sorry you dont like my pictures. Oh, and Im sure an expert such as yourself has forgotten more about Win 21s than Ill ever know. All that being said, Id still like you to expound on some of the dumb claims youve made. Bob, please note I said "shooting to any extent". If you only put 100 or so rounds a year through one, you're probably ok. But thousands, not so much
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Bob, you deleted 8 posts in this thread. Why on earth did you stop? Those deleted posts are some of the best I've ever seen from you. Remember a few weeks back when you felt the need to try to stop me from pointing out that advice from Jagermeister, a guy who doesn't even own any doubles, should be ignored? Maybe you should discuss your thoughts with him. I'm SURE he knows more about Model 21's than everyone else here put together. And you both like using that same crazy smiley face, so you probably share the same mentality.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Dziadu, I can't see what you wrote. Never mind. i'm sure you have added nothing of value to this topic. 
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