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Re: Damascus process failing KY Jon #509905 03/29/18 04:08 PM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 973 Likes: 23 Durham NC Bill Graham OP Sidelock
OP Bill Graham Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 973 Likes: 23 Durham NC	Originally Posted By: KY Jon If you are not set up for rapid dip and then rinse, the weaker the solution, the longer time you have to work. Worst case is that you will need to dip twice or for a longer time. I'm set with the quick dip and rinse. It's the weather that gets me, and I need to confirm I'm using the same solution others are using, and if not, get some.

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #509944 03/29/18 09:27 PM
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mark Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,563 Likes: 70 Wisconsin	I use 1 part circuit board etchant to 4-5 parts distilled water. Weaker may be better. Mark https://www.gunsinternational.com/marksbornagainbirdgunsllc-.cfm DON'T FEED THE TROLLS !

Re: Damascus process failing mark #509974 03/30/18 09:46 AM
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OP Bill Graham Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 973 Likes: 23 Durham NC	Originally Posted By: mark I use 1 part circuit board etchant to 4-5 parts distilled water. Weaker may be better. I use what's marketed as curcuit board etchant as well, but there seems to be FeCl and then FeCl3. Inconclusive if there is appreciable difference with this use.

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #510005 03/30/18 11:50 AM
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mark Sidelock Joined: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,563 Likes: 70 Wisconsin	don't know

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #510013 03/30/18 01:13 PM
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james-l Sidelock Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 1,274 Likes: 1 California	https://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jp953687w?journalCode=jpchax I learn something every day, and a lot of times it's that what I learned the day before was wrong

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #510030 03/30/18 04:00 PM
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Kutter Sidelock Joined: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,850 Likes: 150	They work the same as far as I've been able to tell. The FeCl3 will heat up a bit when water is added to dilute it if you have a real strong % soln of it. Not so much with anything under 50% to start with so most of the pre-mix circuit board FeCl3 doesn't show much reaction. (I believe the warning not to dilute on the lable is about it's strength needed to do the copper etching work it is sold for.) Some of the circuit board etch sold has a combination of FeCl AND Hydrochloric acid in it. Probably a bit toothy for the damascus work.

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #510032 03/30/18 04:10 PM
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OP Bill Graham Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 973 Likes: 23 Durham NC	Thanks All. I used baking soda to neutralize, but have read of Windex being used for blades. I like the idea of a spray bottle. Thoughts?

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #511128 04/10/18 10:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 973 Likes: 23 Durham NC Bill Graham OP Sidelock
OP Bill Graham Sidelock Joined: Aug 2013 Posts: 973 Likes: 23 Durham NC	Things have improved significantly. I believe that in addition to the climate difficulties, I was also seriously under power with the solution mixture. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Hja4nbb7WpHvXOHjAZGA66QYva-Dg95p Until I have a climate controlled space to work in, I'll still need to be careful about the variability of the weather.

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #511130 04/10/18 10:59 AM
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SKB Sidelock Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,992 Likes: 402 Colorado	Looks great Bill! http://www.bertramandco.com/ Booking African hunts, firearms import services Here for the meltdowns

Re: Damascus process failing Bill Graham #511172 04/10/18 08:38 PM
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builder Sidelock Joined: May 2004 Posts: 2,091 Likes: 13 New Jersey	That is up there with the best. Lots of contrast. So many guns, so little time!

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