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#506350 - 02/25/18 05:25 PM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: WildCattle]
buckstix Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 261
Loc: Whitetail Country
Hello WildCattle

Thanks for the reply.

Even though this rifle only weighs about 8 pounds, its' superb balance makes recoil very tolerable. Tested loads of 2,000 fps with a 400g bullets have a felt recoil of about as much as a 300 Win Mag. This one is really a lot of fun to shoot.

I would sure like to see your catalog when you find it. I always try to keep as much information as possible about my guns.
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#506395 - 02/25/18 09:14 PM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: buckstix]
ellenbr Offline
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Registered: 08/10/07
Posts: 7820
Loc: North Alabama
May purchase your own here:

https://www.cornellpubs.com/old-guns/item_desc.php?item_id=113

I'm not positive that Charles Braekers & Cie finished it nor were the end retailer as ever Braeker I've viewed had two serial numbers on the water-table. Either Charles Braekers & Cie was sourcing a concern or Charles Braekers & Cie was being sourced.

Cheers,

Raimey
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#506416 - 02/25/18 11:17 PM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: ellenbr]
buckstix Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 261
Loc: Whitetail Country
Hello ellenbr

Thanks for the reply.

Regardless, I'm sure the monogram on my rifle is that of Charles Braekers & Cie.

Also, I have a catalog on order - thank you for the source.
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#506430 - 02/26/18 07:58 AM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: buckstix]
ellenbr Offline
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Loc: North Alabama
Yes, unequivocally, Ètablissement Braekers Societe Anonyme à Herstal - Liége did have a large part in it.

Someone kindly uploaded a 1926 catalogue & the example of which you are a custodian is a MODÈLE 701 - Carbine Express Type Anglais or is it a MODÈLE 711?:

http://dspace.nplg.gov.ge/bitstream/1234/84225/1/Herstal_Liege_Manufacture_1926.pdf

Anyone have the MODÈLE 801 - Fusil Paradox?

Cheers,

Raimey
rse

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#506549 - 02/27/18 08:25 AM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: ellenbr]
buckstix Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 261
Loc: Whitetail Country
Hello ellenbr

Thanks for the reply.

I don't think my rifle is either the 701 or the 711. The 1926 catalog shows that both of those models "do not" have the extended rib. In that catalog only the shotguns are shown with the extended rib feature.

It will be interesting to see if there is a better match to my gun when my 1929 catalog arrives.
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#507072 - 03/02/18 01:52 PM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: buckstix]
Chukarman Offline
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Registered: 01/02/02
Posts: 1251
Loc: Northern California
I would guess this is 'mid-grade' gun. Many double rifles were made on boxlock actions (with double bite and often a third fastener. The boxlock was believed to be a bit stronger than the barlock sidelock actions and it has the reputation of durability and service in the far parts of the world - which is why DRs were so popular.
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#507603 - 03/07/18 08:25 AM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: Chukarman]
buckstix Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 261
Loc: Whitetail Country
Hello Chukarman

Thanks for the reply.

I agree, and that's why this one is still in use 90 years after it was born.
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#507674 - 03/07/18 09:36 PM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: buckstix]
steve white Offline
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Registered: 05/22/11
Posts: 667
Buckstix: you are a magnet for interesting rifles!

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#507766 - 03/09/18 06:14 AM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: steve white]
buckstix Offline
Sidelock

Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 261
Loc: Whitetail Country
Hello steve white,

Thanks for the reply.

I keep trying to find them. That's what keeps me going.
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#508517 - 03/16/18 01:55 PM Re: Francotte ? 450-400 EX Dbl Rifle - help w markings [Re: buckstix]
Mike Scelzo Offline
Boxlock

Registered: 03/12/18
Posts: 2
I am looking to but a Francotte single barrel trap in good condition. SN 81283. Can anyone tell me anything about it?

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