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I have a nice rook rifle in 300 Rook which doesn't inspire me to get the tools and supplies it takes to load this round. The rifle is too nice to modify. I'm wondering if it's feasible to make a barrel insert in 22LR or 22Hornet. The firing pin complicates the rim fire round. Any ideas, suggestions?
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My H&H top lever, break open Rook with a shot out/neglected barrel is shooting again with a 5.6x50R. Reason for this is the size of the case. Just wanted something different to what I already had and also be able to buy ammunition off the shelf. Depends of course on what Rook rifle you have. Although seems a shame to alter it if its ok as it is. I love these little Rook rifles. Any chance of a photo. I would put one up myself but since Photobucket shut me down I can't.
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Bill, I believe you can shoot 32 long or short Colt, if you can find it. The original cartridge had a heeled, outside lubricated bullet .313" in dia. Later ammo had a .298"inside lubricated bullet, .298" in dia, but intended to expand for a closer fit to the barrel. They didn't expand very well, but the 300 bullet is only .300, which is close enough. The 32 S&W long or short will not work. The head diameter of 22 Hornet is too close to .300 to make an insert practical. I think a 22 LR insert (w/o extractor) may be possible, but the barrel will be very thin. Mike
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I wouldn't know for sure, but I'd suspect an insert would be marginal for remaining strength after some slick machining, and very difficult to package an auxiliary extractor that is activated by the original. If you think you can do the machining, maybe you could make a simple form die to convert 38 spec brass base on a chamber cast, and seat bullets with a shorter 32 pistol die even if it's a bit oversized.
You don't have to thread it for a press, and it may be a bit better to size down to the rim and tap out with a dowel. After fireforming, I doubt you would have to size again, but you could probably figure out a combo of neck sizing and universal expander/flaring die if needed. Hope you get it shooting.
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A rifle too nice to modify but you want to modify it . Rebarrel (match the existing contour), chamber for a cartridge that is dimensionally similar, modify/replace the extractor as necessary. Or just buy some Bertram brass and shoot it.
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Is Rocky Mountain Cartridge still making custom brass to order? I'd go with that before Bertram if it is still available but it seems that I recall it might have closed.
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Is Rocky Mountain Cartridge still making custom brass to order? I'd go with that before Bertram if it is still available but it seems that I recall it might have closed. Or Bob Hayley in Texas. http://home.earthlink.net/~mhclary/HeCanMakeAnything.pdf
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Rocky Mtn Cartridge loads the round in Bertram brass for $4.60 per round. I think I'll either try the loading myself or sell this one and track down one that's more readily shootable. I'll look for the Colt ammo, too.
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If you cast bullets, Accurate has a heeled mold design that will work well. Tom will cut the diameter to whatever your bore slugs to, so the heeled design can be customized to your gun's barrel. Brass for .32 Long can be purchased from a fella on Gunbroker who sells modified .32 S&W Long brass he reworks to be .32 Long. I load for the American .32 Long heeled in a couple Ballard rifles, and it's a wonderful cartridge to shoot. If you decide to reload for your rook, you wont be disappointed in shooting it if the bore is great!
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