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I am looking for a source for cast slugs. The slug type is 250 grain, round nose, .357-.358 diameter. The firearm I am loading for is a SxS 9.3mm (actually slugged at .357"-.358") and 2 1/2" 16 gauge hammer foresters gun (BUCHSFLINTE). If anyone has information about bullet molds as well that would be good too although I would rather not cast my own bullets I would consider it as an option. Thanks in advance. Doug K

Hum, I think Ford pointed me to 38 calibre bullets? Or maybe it was 0.357? Have you searched in that direction before considering a molding effort?

Cheers,

Raimey
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Might you have a 9x72R and not a 9.3x72R.

If the Barrel is stamped �8,7��That is the German proofing (Bore) Calibre Marking for a Rifle Nominal Barrel in 9mm,

The Lyman 358318 mould is what you want

http://www.mattsbullets.com/index.php?ma...5tj3d0ondhisp42

The Lyman 358009 mould would do just fine

http://www.westernbullet.com/ly3gr25.html

Mike

Doug,
Skeettx's suggestion of Lyman 358318 is precisely the bullet you asked about. 9.3x72R rifles are found with groove diameters from .352"- .375", yours is one of the easiest to find bullets for. I suggest you try also Lyman 358315 or RCBS 38200(?)for 200 grain bullets, which stabilize better in some rifles with a shorter twist. As Raimey suggested, you can also try 38/357 pistol bullets or 35 caliber rifle bullets intended for 35 Remington, especially the new Flex Tip bullet. Since your rifle is marked for an 8.7mm bore diameter, instead of 118,35,it was made after 1911 and may do better with 200 gr bullets.
Mike

Mike, the barrel is clearly stamped 9.3. It has been suggested by others as well that it might be a 9x72R. The gun was apparently made in Ferlach, Austria. It was proofed for nitro at the Ferlach proof house. The commercial 9.3x73R ammo would is unsafe to shoot as the projectiles are .360" or .366" diameter. The 9.3x73R A-zoom test round (snap cap) chambers and extracts easily and is purported to be the exact size of the actual round. Thanks for your help. Doug K

Mike, all the study I have done and people I have contacted who clearly are more informed than I have suggested that the .35 Remington has ballistics closer to the 9.3x72R than other rounds. The 9.3x72R is supposedly a lower pressure round than the .35 Remington. The rifle is clearly marked 9.3 and was likely made in Ferlach, Austria as it was proofed for nitro at the Ferlach proof house given the proof marks. I am unsure of the twist and even more unsure as to how to determine same. Thanks, Doug K

Not a major issue
Use the 9.3x72R dies with a .356 expander button.
And maybe an "M" die to flare the mouth to receive
bullets
Mike

DougK
The Austrians and Germans used different rules in marking their guns(and they changed over time), so an Austrian Gun proofed/re-proofed in Germany may have different marks for the same cartridge. Modern ammo is loaded with a .364-.365" bullet that is especially made to be safe in smaller barrels, such as yours. You can use this ammo in your rifle or handload with the bullets mentioned above. My mention of the 35 Rem. was only for bullets made for it, not ammo.
skeettx,
My dies were born as a 2 die set, but I made it a 3 die set with a "M" die, as you suggest, but I both expand and bell in it.
Mike

YOU are THE MAN
Actually, so do I
The "M" dies sure are helpful.
https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1011246697/lyman-neck-expander-m-die
Mike

p.s. and I often use the 310 or Tru-line sets with the 7/8x14 adapter

Mike, thanks for the info. I have an RCBS 3-die set which has an expander die as I was able to load the rounds. It has a full length sizing/decapping die, however, the base of the case is not resized completely because of the shell holder. As a result the round won't fully chamber. I can close the gun and force the into the chamber. I have an A-Zoom trial round/snap cap in the 9.3x72R that easily chambers. It has been suggested that the gun can be rechambered but given that the round is semi-obsolete I doubt anyone would even possess a chamber reamer in that caliber anywhere. Regards, Doug K