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#502181 01/18/18 06:02 PM
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Do typical chambers meant for 12ga brass shells differ in diameter from chambers made for current production 12ga shells?

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Chambers were normally the same for both. Some early guns made especially for brass shells had oversize bores. I have heard of, but never encountered, a few very early guns made with under size chambers for a special brass shell which would use the ordinary 12 gauge wads rather than oversize wads. As the ordinary brass shells with their over size wads could be readily used in guns having standard bores, this alternative didn't last long.


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Brass shells, marked '12A', are the same size as the paper or plastic shells. The '12B' is smaller than the '12A'. I had specimens of both in my collection, but, am not aware of any special markings on guns specifying either size shell.


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Thanks to all for providing insights. I have what was believed to be an English 12ga, that 12ga will not chamber a 12ga plastic hull shell.

Thinking that perhaps it’s really a 16ga, I tried a shell. The rim of a 16ga shell will stop the shell from falling all the way into the barrel, and is very loose in the chamber. A 16ga chamber gauge will pass the forcing cones.

The gun is a William Ford “Eclipse” BLNE, made after 1875 from what I understand, and would like to figure out what it shoots.

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14ga?

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maybe its a 14 gauge chambered gun?


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14ga is what I would think. No experience with 14ga, or know of anyone around who could confirm it. I would expect 14ga would be pretty expensive ammunition, if it could be found.

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RMC will make you 14 bore brass shells:

http://www.rockymountaincartridge.com/in...ts%20Prices.pdf

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Thanks. I’ll let the next owner do that, but wanted to get an idea of what it is.

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If you like the gun, consider getting custom chamber reducers made for it.

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