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FYI, it is a direct copy of the round body Rizzini Inverness.

How bad could that be? If I didn't already have a 687/30", I'd be interested in one of these. Nice range of options at that price point.

I shouldn't have been so dismissive. Nothing against either -- I've owned and shot guns from both makers and they've held up well. I'm not a high-volume shooter like you are. But I like the quality, craftsmanship and ethos of CSMC. All the guns are made right there. You can meet the people who personally made them. Those same gunsmiths are also making the A-10, Foxes, 21s and now they are making this one. It also follows the same story of the Trojan and the Sterlingworth. I don't mean to disparage Cabelas or Dick's but they're big box stores without any personality selling new guns that reflect the same. CSMC isn't perfect but they make good, if not excellent guns, and now they are making a very good one for the same or less money as the big mass-market companies. I know CSMC has a long and controversial story on this site, but I think they are accomplishing that no other manufacturer is still able to do: make high-quality guns, with much of the work still by hand, here in the US. And they don't have all the marketing budgets and big name reputation as the others. Part of owning a gun is buying into the story behind it. CSMC has a pretty good one.

I should also correct my earlier statement as it having the same action as the Inverness. There are some differences, shorter top and bottom tangs and a slightly different fit to the stock. Other than that, the only difference I can see is fit and finish.

This base model Inverness is a good-looking alternative to similar-priced Berettas and Brownings, and maybe Guerinis, although CSMC may have the upper hand price-wise when you consider looks. Performance remains to be seen, as all the others are more of a known quantity, even though the Inverness has been out for several years.

Stan makes a good point about reliability comparison with a Beretta SPII. I doubt there is a more reliable o/u ever made than the 680 series from Beretta.

I've had many CSMC shotguns since the RBL20 was introduced, one A10 12 ga. and several RBL12's. Every one of the RBL's went back with problems, and the A10 broke both mainsprings from heavy use at Sporting clays. They sent me two new springs for the A10 which I replaced, and the RBL's all were fixed quickly and perfectly, no questions asked other than "how do you want us to do this?" Just know that CSMC products require some caveats and understanding, but they are unique, attractive, durable, and well-designed guns. I would not discourage anyone from buying this gun at this price, but I would strongly suggest going with the wood upgrade for the nominal extra cost.

In the long haul, you will probably be very happy with this gun at this price.
JR

Well said, Vikingny. I agree completely.
JR

I just ordered one yesterday. This thread has been very helpful as was my short email conversation with Rick. I did ask for the wood upgrade. I was told that it should ship in three weeks.

Question, is the Revelation price point CSMC introductory price? After x number of guns or time will the price increase as it did with the RBL, A10 and Inverness? I agree it's a great price point and it's made here in the United States. I do enjoy my RBL.

Alder Adder, please post some pictures when it arrives. Thanks

If so, they haven't mentioned it. v