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#493670 11/01/17 06:23 PM
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My friend that owns a gun shop sent a few pictures today of a drilling. He knew I was looking to buy one and he bought a collection with a couple of drilling in it and he is keeping one and selling this one to me. I plan to go take more pictures soon. He said this one is a double trigger with a greener safety and is 12ga over 8x57JR. Is there anything I need to look for function wise? Here are a few pictures.




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It looks like a nice drilling, in spite of the fact that I am a 16 ga. man. It would be helpful if you post additional photos. You should post photos of all the markings, especially the proof marks. To find these, you need to remove the forearm and barrels. The proof marks will be found under the barrels. Also an overall photo would be helpful, because there are several different rifle barrel selectors and we can't tell whether yours is the common type, or something else.
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If I read that correctly, DRP Nr. 60215, that is a Heym patent from 5.23.1891:

Dreiläufiges Jagdgewehr mit drei Abzügen und drei auf einer Achse sitzenden Hämmern

So with that, Karl Körmes may have sourced F.W. Heym for this example. We had a thread or threads recently on Büchsenmacher Karl Körmes in Liepzig.

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Thanks for the info. I hope to have better pic's soon.

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R. Marshall,

I have a few and some things to look at are that the gun is on face and there is no play with the forend off. Same thing you look for on a SXS. I usually put in some dummy rounds with painters tape over the backs and make sure I get good firing pin strikes on all barrels and do it a couple of times to make sure the selector works correctly. Also if the barrel selector raises the rear sight make sure that it also lowers it. Check there are no cracks in the stock or forend and finally that the barrel & ribs are tight.

I like to slug the rifle barrel to make sure I have the right size bullets, also check the chamber length, more likely that not it will be 65mm (use 2 1/2" RST or something similar).

As others have suggested more pics are needed. From what I see the area in the picture showing the maker the solder joint between the rib and barrel looks a bit funny, it appears to be an unusual build up of solder or maybe just oil or grease? I would look this over very carefully to make sure it is not "repair" of some sort.

Other than that start looking for some 8X57 JR ammo and have fun.

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Here's a thread on a combo retailed by Karl Körmes:


Karl Körmes was a trader:

http://www.ebay.it/itm/Karl-Kormes-Leipzig-Jaggdportmagazin-Jagdpatronen-Reklame-1897-/161246833780

but established in 1797…!!!

and he existed at least in 1949:

http://adressbuecher.genealogy.net/entry/show/2604772


http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=368862&Searchpage=1&Main=32067&Words=K%F6rmes&Search=true#Post368862

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R Marshall,
FW Heym's patent was the first hammerless drilling, a fact they are still very proud of. The Gun was not necessarily made by Heym, note also that they reference the Anson and Deely system, but they didn't make it either. Note the Heym patent included 3 triggers, and 3 hammers(Haemmern) on one pin( axel "Achse"). The use of the word hammer is a little unusual, now they would likely be called "schlag stueck"( hitting or striking piece). If the drilling had 3 triggers, it wouldn't have a selector. I too am concerned about the same thing WBLDON is.
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I went and looked it over and it was just dust built up next to the rib. Lock up was tight with the forearm off and the bores all look good. The sight pops-up and closes when working the barrel selector which looks like a normal tang safety. I forgot to take a few pictures of the overall gun due to being in to big of a hurry. Here are the pictures I took.










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Here is the ammo he said went with it.

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Yes, you will need a .318 bullet
as is above smile

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/...754908510566.do

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