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Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: shinbone


When I do a quick calculation using an average density for steel, the thickness of 60g of metal removed from the diameter of just one bore of these barrels would come to 0.072 thousandths. Meaning a negligible change in wall thickness from proof.


You might want to check your calculation again because .072" is .005" greater than the difference between a 12 gauge and a 16 gauge bore. That is hardly a negligible difference.


Yes, 60g off of 1239g is a 4.8% change, which I agree is not insignificant. Hmmmmm . . . .

The number I got was .072 *thousandths*, but I was a little rushed when I did the calculation and will recheck today.

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No need for math.
The bore at the time of proof is marked just forward of the flats. What is the bore now?

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Originally Posted By: Drew Hause
No need for math.
The bore at the time of proof is marked just forward of the flats. What is the bore now?


Yes, but I won't be able to take advantage of Lloyd's generosity to make wall measurements until next Friday, and I was hoping to get an idea before then. Plus, as a former* engineering nerd, I wanted to have a little fun playing with the numbers.

*That I screwed up the calculation illustrates why the word "former" is used in conjunction with the word "engineering" in the previous paragraph. And, I did find an error so ignore the previous number. I won't post my new results until I have gone over it a few times.

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Shinbone: I will be there this friday, but fear that I may be out back-of-beyond next Friday now, chasing elk (old habits die hard). Can I get a rain check until the following week? I would like to see your gun in person.

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Lloyd - No problem on the timing. Good luck on your elk hunt, too. I am sending a PM

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Photos of barrel marking in front of the flats are below. I understand the gauge designations, but why the ratio and why two ratios for each barrel?




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Black powder proof, smallest internal diameter (16.9)

Smoke powder proof, done later with a larger internal diameter
from "Freshing up the barrels" (17.0)

others are choke diameters (16.3 and 16.4)

Mike

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See proof mark chart 16th block down smile

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Degree of choke, in this case 0.7mm constriction

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Thanks. Why are the numbers shown as a ratio?

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Why looking like a ratio??
I was NOT born yet in 1924
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Got it. Not a ratio, just choke diameter over bore diameter. Thanks.

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