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I know most woodcock and grouse hunters in the Northeastern U.S. love the short barreled guns for those tight aspen and alder thickets. Perhaps the longer barreled guns are preferred when used in clay games or open prairie hunting, but here in Pennsylvania I don't see the shorter barreled guns being harder to sell. I own both long and short lengths, and both have their merits. For me its a matter of picking the right tool for the job. But that is just my humble opinion...

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It comes down to who your market is in this case. Best option is to find a collector who puts a premium on what this gun is. Next best is a hunter who likes short barreled guns because he like them when he hunts. Hardest sale will be to a clay target shooter who has been told clay targets are easier with a long barreled gun. I'd start looking for Winchester collectors and see if there is any interest there first. As to price ask high and be willing to lower it if needed.

I bought a Japanese made Winchester 42 high grade limited edition, that was nearly new with the box. But close examination showed it had been shot. So nib value was gone. There were several small dings on the wood but the metal was perfect. I ended up paying less for that than I would have for a original 42 in 50% condition. The reproductions from Japan just are not in as much demand as the originals.

It killed a lot of Doves this year and won my Skeet club shootoff Sunday. I ran the 12 ga. event and had to shoot off doubles against two others. Not caring about winning I went out with my .410 to have some fun. Short shoot off, only went three stations and having not missed the .410 won the day. More luck than skill in this case. But it is a hoot to shoot.

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Different strokes for different folks. Clay shooters who premounted and actually aim their guns seem to do better with longer barrels. But many upland bird hunters who are shooting more or less instinctively often opt for the shorter barrels. My favorite wild quail gun is a Lefever DS 16 with 26" barrels. It's all instinctive, I'm often surprised when the gun fires and a bird drops, not being conscious of the swing, trigger, etc. but on clays I immediately revert to some hybrid mix of aimed shot and scores drop like a rock.


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My favorite is a Heym 16 ga O/U with 60 CM( 23 3/8") barrels. I agree with Joe Wood. I had these barrels made for Quail, but they worked great with my style of shooting on pheasants and hare also. The chokes are more open than cyl. BTW.
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Originally Posted By: KDGJ
You don't see many of them for sale. People are asking $3700 to $5000 for the 28 gauges. They are very similar to the 101 featherweight (straight stock and 25.5" barrels) just different engraving.

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While the 28ga is in elite bore category I do not understand this pricing scheme. One can get B.C. Miroku Browing 28ga for quite a bit less than Olin-Kondensha "Winchester". This is exactly analogous to Browning BSS vs. Sakaba. Both are made in same country yet one brand can be found for substantially less.
In EU the Browning known there as B.C. Miroku MK series would sell for more than Winchester 101 because the company still makes them meaning service and spare parts are available while the other company is now a golf course. It's hard to argue with logic, no?

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
Originally Posted By: KDGJ
You don't see many of them for sale. People are asking $3700 to $5000 for the 28 gauges. They are very similar to the 101 featherweight (straight stock and 25.5" barrels) just different engraving.

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While the 28ga is in elite bore category I do not understand this pricing scheme. One can get B.C. Miroku Browing 28ga for quite a bit less than Olin-Kondensha "Winchester". This is exactly analogous to Browning BSS vs. Sakaba. Both are made in same country yet one brand can be found for substantially less.
In EU the Browning known there as B.C. Miroku MK series would sell for more than Winchester 101 because the company still makes them meaning service and spare parts are available while the other company is now a golf course. It's hard to argue with logic, no?


The 101 quail special was a limited run gun. I don't know if Winchester actually made the 500 guns for each gauge. You shouldn't compare it with a standard browning citori or BC Miroku for price.

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A member of our "Sunday Morning Joy Boys" group that I shoot skeet with bought a NIB 12-gauge Quail Special for $1400 out the door at one of our local pawn shops this fall. If there were 500 made in each gauge, shouldn't a 12-, 20- & 28-gauge or .410-bore be worth the same?

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I love Winchester 101s. Got a few of them in 12ga and 20ga, including a Ruffed Grouse version. JMHO, but the 28ga version is less appealing because they are unfortunately heavy-for-gauge. Again, JMHO.

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