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I don't particularly care for small talk with a seller. I really do believe that there are serious and non serious sellers. I'll wait patiently for a busy but serious seller. If my instincts tell me I'm was 'sized up' and stuck on the B list, there wouldn't be any possible deal no matter how interesting something looked a few minutes earlier. There are just way too many options for buyers.

I think, just to see what happens, a seller might price everything at an honest bottom line, and put up a little sign that explains, no dickering adjusted to best price. It may mean not squeezing a few extra bucks out one or two items, but I think the goal is to scare away tire kickers.

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Mr Boyd is frustrated by chicken$hit buyers who give their wives oversight of their spending habits as the excuse for them not buying a gun; however, if guns were priced right there’d be fewer tire kickers. The SxS market has been soft for several years but asking prices rarely reflect that as evidenced by the long term listings on the auction sites that keep being relisted. On Gunsinternational there are roughly 800 British guns for sale and 600 or so Parker’s, just to give two examples. Over-supply maybe? How many SxS shooters are there? Fewer and fewer given the aging population and mediocre participation in previously well-attended vintager shoots. If dealers want to stimulate the market they need to price their guns right.

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Why do you give a hoot so much, Stan?? There is so much worse BS on this site that John's attempt to commiserate here seems pretty tame. If he wants to vent here, I don't see it as all that big of a deal, no problem. If the administrator here doesn't approve, he could easily put a stop to John's complaints. I don't see where it's our job...or yours, to police the content of the threads here, including this one. Sorry, but I don't agree with your sentiment this time.


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John, one of my principles of negotiation is to always try to have the other party throw out the first number. That way I know right off whether we'll be able to deal or not.

Best answer to the 'what's your best price' gambit is to act offended when someone counters and tell them 'but you've already asked for my best price and I gave it to you'...Geo

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Originally Posted By: buzz
Why do you give a hoot so much, Stan?? There is so much worse BS on this site that John's attempt to commiserate here seems pretty tame. If he wants to vent here, I don't see it as all that big of a deal, no problem. If the administrator here doesn't approve, he could easily put a stop to John's complaints. I don't see where it's our job...or yours, to police the content of the threads here, including this one. Sorry, but I don't agree with your sentiment this time.


I'm not wanting to police anything, buzz. You read that into my post somewhere or another. Nowhere did I say that John should not be allowed to say what he thinks ....... just as I should be allowed to disagree with his posting. I just wanted to point out that John does this periodically. He seems to have a tendency to badmouth his potential customers. No other advertiser on DGJ does so. Do the threads to which I provided links not show that tendency? If you agree with that type of complaining I can see your taking exception to my posting.

I completely understand if you don't agree with me, buzz, but show me where I attempted to police the content of the thread, or even remotely suggested John not be allowed to post it here.

SRH


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Stan: Showing us (3) three threads of similar content are clearly an effort to show evidence of habitual complaining and all with a goal to stop this man from expressing his opinions. If you don't want to call that an effort to "police", well, then so be it. Or, maybe you are just telling John to shut the fu*k up?

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Nothing personal, Buzz,
but John needs Us a hell of a lot more than we need him.
Kvetching here about no-good customers guarantees people that are curious about his wares don't call.

We know what he thinks of us already.

I was just trying to be polite in my earlier post.

But now that the cat is out of the bag, well, John's laments on an open forum hurt his business.

There's no conspiracy to censor him, but three is certainly a well intended wish that he would stop, if only for his own business' sake.


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I clearly stepped on somebody's toes. Be that as it may, neither of your assumptions are correct, buzz. While you're absolutely right that I was, definitely, pointing out John's tendencies to complain about his clientele, I was NOT suggesting he be censored, or the other uncalled for crude expression you used in your anger.

Sorry I rubbed you so wrong. That was not my intention at all.

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I'm not angry Stan. You are the one angry as evidenced by your willingness to prove John habitually complains, his MO here, I believe you called it, which clearly appears to bother you. Indeed, I don't care if John complains here. And really, I don't care if you care that he does. But you are the angry one, not me. And yes, I guess we disagree here. I have purchased from John and would do so again despite the nature of his threads on this forum. It also appears others purchase items they want from John too despite the content of his threads. If you review his threads in the 'for sale' section you will see that's true. And now I bid farewell to this ridiculous bantering back and forth.


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We'll agree to disagree on this one, buzz. I respect your opinions, and appreciate your being man enough to voice them. I'm not angry either. I was offering my opinion on John's actions, and tendencies in this regard, but no anger was present. My efforts in linking the three older examples were merely for evidence. In all truth, it's nowhere near important enough to get me angry ........ but it is important enough to me to have taken a few minutes to point it out.

I'm done with it, too, and would not have even posted again on this thread had you not confronted me. I wish you well, and hope you have a great year chasing quail.

All my best, SRH


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