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#494045 - 11/05/17 04:18 PM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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The striker can be at full cock,,wether the Safety is ON (full forward) or OFF (full back).
If it is cocked,,the cocking indicator will be showing at top the frame. The earlier style cocking indicator was on the bolt top surface itself.
But worked the same way. Rifle cocked,,it protrudes,,uncocked,,it's down flush with the surface.

The 1899/99 Safety simply blocks the trigger from pivoting and locks the lever from opening. It does nothing more.

What position the Safety is in makes no difference as to wether the rifle mechanism is in the Cocked or Uncocked state once the lever is closed, breech locked shut.

The cocking indicator works directy off of the striker, Nothing to do with the Safety position.

With the striker at the cocked position you can move the Safety back and forth betw the Safe an Fire positions all you want,,the striker will remain at full cock.
That has no effect on the striker, the indicator will remain exposed. The striker is totally independent of the Safety. Manipulating the Safety to Off does not lower the striker to a 'half cock' or other 'safety state' and then back to full cock when the Safety is re-engaged to the Fire position..


You do have to have the Safety in the rear position (Off/Fire) in order for the lever to be able to close all the way and lock the breech shut if that is the worry.
If the Safety is in the forward (On/Safe) position it blocks the lever from closing the last little way
But that is something that occures naturally in the operation of the rifle. I can't think of an instance where the shooter would re=engage the Safety to the forward position between shots (lever open) and then try to close the action.
It's just not a natural sequence of firing events to any manual operated firearm.

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#494077 - 11/05/17 06:54 PM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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Thanks for the thorough explanation Kutter...Geo

Always nice to know how a weapon works before putting bullets in it!


Edited by Geo. Newbern (11/06/17 09:06 AM)
Edit Reason: added final sentence

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#494132 - 11/06/17 10:03 AM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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George:

I own two of the later Model 99s, both in .300 Savage.

They are my idea of the ultimate eastern US deer rifle. Graf and Sons is currently listing .303 Savage ammo for sale with 150 grain spritzer bullets. To my knowledge, no major manufacturer currently makes the 190 grain bullet that made this cartridge's reputation, although Hawk, Inc. still offers one.

Rem


Edited by Remington40x (11/06/17 10:20 AM)

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#494433 - 11/10/17 12:36 AM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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Years ago I was at a general auction that had a few guns, I stole a 99DL in .358.

Last year I needed a back up gun on my Maine moose hunt so I scoped it with a 1.75 Kollmorgan and ran some factory 250g loads through it at 100yds.

I was impressed....



I have a few 99's but none that shoot as well as this yet.
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#502158 - 01/18/18 02:14 PM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
Dimner Offline
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Registered: 01/17/18
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Loc: Michigan
Geo,

If you want any load data for the 303 Savage, let me know (or we can start a new thread). I spent a large portion of my 2017 range time developing a suitable load for my wants out of the 303 savage.

It paid off in the fall:


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#502160 - 01/18/18 02:57 PM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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Thanks Dimner, but I found out again I can't do iron sights so I passed the gun along...Geo

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#502176 - 01/18/18 04:25 PM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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George:

A lot of the older Savage 99s are drilled and tapped for a peep sight that mounts on the rear, not the side, of the receiver. They aren't cheap (about $100-125 when you can find one) but they'll let you shoot an unscoped rifle a while longer, as my 64 year old eyes will attest.

Rem

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#502200 - 01/18/18 06:09 PM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
Recoil Rob Offline
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In addition, the ones that are D&T's for the tang sights will also accommodate a Stith mount, it utilizes the tang sight holes and the rear barrel sight dovetail....

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#502289 - 01/19/18 02:46 PM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Geo. Newbern]
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I ended up installing a piece of pickatinney rail and one of these on my Sauer 12ga/.43 Mauser combination gun.

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/...8QSDE8ut4xwvbEb

Looks weird but its the most bad eyes friendly non scope sight I've found...Geo

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#503781 - 02/02/18 01:39 AM Re: Savage model 1899 safety [Re: Dimner]
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nice deer and nice rifle !

I have several 303 savage rifles, two 1895s and 2 1899s

would love to know what loads you found worked best

haven't taken any of mine out hunting yet but I hope to try it on caribou and deer

thanks !
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