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I suspect the problem with the caps' rims deteriorating is related to the effect of oil on the plastic.

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I don't know how I forgot about the uncocking bit with the Ideal. Still makes me nervous to do it for some reason, but yes that's one of the gun's features.

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On my J P Clabrough & Bros SLNE the forend cannot be replaced with the hammers down. It has what I would consider conventional cocking levers. On these the lever is hinged in the bar of the frame. The longer rear portion lifts the toes of the manner, while the shorter front portion extends through the knuckle to engage the forend iron. With down the levers are do not ave eniugh clearance to allow the forend to be reassembled without 'un-due" force.
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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
It doesn't serve any useful purpose, but some still believe that it helps keep tension of the springs. The best caps are those with hard rubber primers made of thin metal plated with nickel. For practice I use light alloy ones with spring tensioned brass primers because that is all I could find locally in 16 ga.


Dropping the hammers really does relieve the tension on the main springs, and a spring which is left in a compressed state for an extended period will eventually take a set. But you don't even own any double guns Jagermeister. So tell us... since you don't own even one lousy double shotgun...do your snap caps cycle through your Remington autoloader?

I use several different brands and types of snap caps including the plastic ones, but never had a problem with the rims disintegrating or breaking. Some of them are probably 20-25 years old. I wonder if exposure to some specific bore solvent or oil is what caused the plastic cracking problem that some have experienced? Syracuse Lefevers are another gun that can easily be manually de-cocked, eliminating the need for snap caps or dry firing into a wood block or piece of brass.


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Is it odd that snap caps would slip down the bore of a 20 ga. even without the rims ? I would think that the snap cap diameter was near the chamber diameter, which should be larger than the bore diameter.

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Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
It doesn't serve any useful purpose, but some still believe that it helps keep tension of the springs. The best caps are those with hard rubber primers made of thin metal plated with nickel. For practice I use light alloy ones with spring tensioned brass primers because that is all I could find locally in 16 ga.


Dropping the hammers really does relieve the tension on the main springs, and a spring which is left in a compressed state for an extended period will eventually take a set. But you don't even own any double guns Jagermeister. So tell us... since you don't own even one lousy double shotgun...do your snap caps cycle through your Remington autoloader?

I use several different brands and types of snap caps including the plastic ones, but never had a problem with the rims disintegrating or breaking. Some of them are probably 20-25 years old. I wonder if exposure to some specific bore solvent or oil is what caused the plastic cracking problem that some have experienced? Syracuse Lefevers are another gun that can easily be manually de-cocked, eliminating the need for snap caps or dry firing into a wood block or piece of brass.


I don't use them in my 16ga gun. The only reason I bought them was to test ejector function and timing on Ugartechea 16ga 25" BLE game gun. They should play a function in practice when lot of dry-firing is done. For that purpose they should be durable and have weight of empties or slightly more. Snappy's clear dud shells (Starline shell) with lead shot removed should work fine.

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But Jagermeister, you just told us that you didn't follow through with the sale on that Ugartechea 16 ga. with 25" barrels. You had it on 5 day hold and let it go. Do you have this much trouble making a decision when you buy your toy stuffed animals? You said a friend you work with bought it. Are you going to tell us that the ejectors weren't working properly, but your friend bought it anyway?

25" barrels huh? You sure seem to like those short barreled guns. But then, you did tell us that short barrels on a gun make you look taller.

Now you need to find a gun that won't make you look like a pathetic ass who can't afford even one lousy double, yet acts like he knows more about them than most experts.


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Originally Posted By: keith


25" barrels huh? You sure seem to like those short barreled guns. But then, you did tell us that short barrels on a gun make you look taller.

Now you need to find a gun that won't make you look like a pathetic ass who can't afford even one lousy double, yet acts like he knows more about them than most experts.


Stupid guess or as is now popular fake notion. The 16ga Remington cost me more than the price of Ugartechea BLE. The guy needed game gun more than I. Since the price was very, very good I let him look at it. He liked what he saw, handled and ended buying nice knockabout gun for very little money.

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Yeah, we already know that you do not really need a game gun because you got caught in one of your never-ending lies about the fact that you do not hunt. That was kind of like when you told us about your use of Grex polyethylene shot buffer, and then two weeks later told us you never reload ammunition.

Just as well that you let you friend buy the gun because it seems pretty apparent that you would have never followed though with your commitment to buy it. Considering the amount of absolute B.S you post here, I'd be very surprised to find that you actually bought the Remington Model 1100 16 ga. autoloader. I'd have to actually see the Form 4473 and the entry in the FFL's Bound Ledger. Nothing like a series of obvious lies to totally destroy any credibility you nay have once enjoyed.


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Originally Posted By: keith
Yeah, I'd have to actually see the Form 4473 and the entry in the FFL's Bound Ledger. Nothing like a series of obvious lies to totally destroy any credibility you nay have once enjoyed.


The Remington 1100 16ga with 26" VR IC choked barrel is the new classic. Showing you pics of the gun and bill of sale would not change anything.

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