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Re: Josef Zeller over under questioning
Ben W #493158 10/27/17 02:36 PM
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Fortunately the barrel on my Heeren 6.5x58R Sauer measures .264 and it loves 120 grain Sierras.
Re: Josef Zeller over under questioning
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Re: Josef Zeller over under questioning
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The last two pictures have probably the clearest photo of the symbols that I could not identify. Looks like a eagle but not like any of the proofs on the link.
Re: Josef Zeller over under questioning
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Yeah Baumgarten, the K in a Rhombus or boxed K could be attributed to a Klett or possibly a Kelber. Axel E. gives that the jagged encircled K is that of a Klett but a workcard or similar will ferret out the demon. This example experienced proof between 1912 & early 1923 in Suhl. The script WK is that of master barrelsmith Wilhelm Kelber. But the boxed Ks denote a dual tube effort. With the high serial number I still wonder if it was sourced from Greifelt?

The last 2 images show the Imperial Eagle & Inspection stamp on the water-table.

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Re: Josef Zeller over under questioning
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Ben,
The crown U under an eagle is the mark for a definitive proof, using the provisional charge. It does have the crown W, so it is choked( amount of choke not listed, but usually very tight).The Nitro is in block letters, so it was proofed in Suhl. It was likely made in or near Suhl, then. With the bore shown in mm, it was made after 1911. There is no date, so it was made before 1924. I still couldn't see the "cooch", when I tried to magnify it, all I could see were knees and feet.
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I will try a better photo. Thanks for all the great info. I feel much better informed on what I have you guys are a wealt of knowledge!

Here are 3 its the word after Krupp. Its almost impossible to read.
https://ibb.co/hZqgd6
https://ibb.co/mFC55m
https://ibb.co/gjGbBR

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Re: Josef Zeller over under questioning
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That's Essen, the city where Krupp is located.

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Ben,
Half a Double is correct, Essen is in the Ruhr river valley, I believe.
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One last question and its the loaded one. How do I go about estimating a value for insurance purposes?
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