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#492115 - 10/12/17 06:19 AM Navets Volants....
GLS Offline
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Navets volants. Well that’s what the English to French online translator yielded for “flying turnips”. However when Navets volants was reversed into a translator, it became “steering wheel stinker” in one version, “flying parsnips” in another. Is it possible that the Parker engraver “ex-patriated” to France? My 16 gauge Ideal 302/2 arrived from France yesterday. 70 cm (27.5”) barrels, cyl/xf, fully swamped. 5 lbs., 14.4 oz. with the soon to be removed pachyderm foot pad for a recoil pad. And Bugs Bunny’s dog? Pick up the damn duck, don’t point it. This is the gun I mentioned I was expecting to arrive in the New Guns thread. The condition of the metal far exceeded expectations based on the sale photos appearing on Naturabuy. While not the refined, exquisite engraving on canvasback’s Ideal 6EE appearing in the new guns thread, it appeals to me and is more than appropriate for my lower grade 302/2 extractor model made in the mid-1930’s. I am quite pleased with it. Gil






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#492116 - 10/12/17 06:30 AM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
Dave Erickson Offline
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Neat gun, Gil. Straight stock or bump?

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#492118 - 10/12/17 06:38 AM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
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#492120 - 10/12/17 07:47 AM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
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Navets Volants.....I like that. I'm going with flying parsnips.

I'm lucky enough to have handled this gun. Gil is right, the engraving is very attractive, although I think he is downplaying it a bit. Better yet, what engraving is there looks like it was cut yesterday....pretty good for a gun made in the mid 1930s.

Another thing of note about it. As Gil mentioned, he intends to replace the pad. I'm not sure with what yet but I can tell you that it is a 14" LOP to the uncut end of the stock right now. Always nice to find under a pad like that.

And when the wood gets a refinish, it is really going to pop.

The more I handle Manufance Ideals, the more I am comfortable with the idea that, like most of the big American concerns, while they had clearly defined grade levels, the company was in the business of making what the customer wanted. This gun of Gil's has better wood than a 302 should have and more extensive engraving, especially on the fences. To me it looks like they did a normal 302 then pimped it up with game scenes, the fences and a extra nice stick.

Good buy Gil! Ya dun good!
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#492121 - 10/12/17 07:49 AM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
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Very nice. Bobby

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#492130 - 10/12/17 08:43 AM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
Mark II Offline
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Gil, could you share the ease or difficulty with the import experience, and ballpark costs. Thanks, Mark

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#492142 - 10/12/17 10:23 AM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
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Its too bad many engravers never saw a live flying parsnip or a dog on point. Both in this case appear to have been taken from a comic strip. The rest of the engraving while quite simple is at least in good taste and pleasantly executed.

When I look at an Ideal it is the grace of the lines that run from the wrist to the rounded receiver that make it exotic looking. I think a POW grip significantly detracts from that.

None-the-less I bet its a grand gun to take to the field.
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#492143 - 10/12/17 10:32 AM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
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I bet the round body lends itself to a very pleasant carry in the field.
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#492181 - 10/12/17 08:51 PM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
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GLS, I have a Parker DH from 1891 (well abused "shooter grade") that has "flying turnips" on the floor plate.

Someday we'll have to chase woodcock in the SC Low Country and I'll show you REAL "flying turnips" - no, I won't shoot this 7# 4oz 12 bore at woodcock but I'll bring it along to show the "turnips".

BTW that's a nice looking Ideal.


Edited by FlyChamps (10/12/17 08:52 PM)

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#492182 - 10/12/17 09:20 PM Re: Navets Volants.... [Re: GLS]
67galaxie Offline
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Registered: 04/09/16
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Loc: Valdosta GA
It is super sexy minus the pad you already hate

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