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#492177 - 10/12/17 08:13 PM Re: Point of Aim [Re: builder]
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Registered: 05/14/04
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Loc: New Jersey
Thank you Kutter. Your idea worked. Shot it today at sporting clays very well and then patterned it. Pattern was perfectly centered which is what I like. Easy to tell since the pattern is less than ten inches at 16 yards. I think the chokes get opened a bit when I have some time over the winter. It is a beautiful model 37 that I have not shot in ten years. Lots of fun!
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#492400 - 10/17/17 10:54 AM Re: Point of Aim [Re: builder]
KY Jon Offline
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I use to shoot Skeet with a fellow who had his barrel bent so it patterned three feet high at the center post. He had a flinch and pulled the gun off his shoulder every time he pulled the trigger. On doubles he would pull the butt off his shoulder on the first shot, then remount the gun and pull it off again. Doing so made his point of impact three feet low at the middle post. I watched him bend a new gun barrel in between the slats of our fence to change his point if impact. He said with
a Browning he would slam the barrel down on top of two bags of shot. Browning barrels were very easily bent. He could also help straighten out a fellows bent barrel if it got bent by accident. Trap shooter have also been known to bend a barrel to change POI. More than one way to skin a cat.

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#493090 - 10/26/17 03:46 PM Re: Point of Aim [Re: builder]
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It shoots 3" high at 16 yards .Its a shotgun NOT a rifle .Now you know wear it shoots its up to you to calculate this in your lead when taking the shot .

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#493114 - 10/26/17 07:57 PM Re: Point of Aim [Re: gunman]
Stan Offline
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Loc: somwers in Jawja
Originally Posted By: gunman
It shoots 3" high at 16 yards .Its a shotgun NOT a rifle .Now you know wear it shoots its up to you to calculate this in your lead when taking the shot .


laugh

You sound like somebody I'd like to shoot for money. Lessee, float everything over the bead, and the farther off it is the more I have to float it. Three inches at 16 is 6 at 32, and 9 at 48 yards. You won't miss every shot because of that much, but you darn sure will miss some, and wing many. When you have to make allowances for the flaws in the gun you will never shoot your best. Your mind is on the wrong thing.

I explicitly disagree with the proposal that a little off is okay. I do not tolerate it because it can be fixed. With a doublegun, if it can't be rectified without removing and relaying the ribs, move it down the road.

To shoot a shotgun the best possible, which is the only way I'm interested in, it's got to shoot exactly where I am looking.

SRH


Edited by Stan (10/26/17 08:52 PM)
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#493226 - 10/28/17 10:57 AM Re: Point of Aim [Re: builder]
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Registered: 01/02/02
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Loc: Georgia, USA
Stan, you shoot at a level far beyond the abilities of most of us, well me for certain. I'm an open choke kind of guy and wide patterns make up for gun problems as well as poor marksmanship. You may be able to center pattern your shots on targets; I rely upon the kindness of a well spread pattern...Geo

Turkeys excepted of course!

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#493270 - 10/28/17 06:38 PM Re: Point of Aim [Re: builder]
Stan Offline
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Oh my, Geo., I rely on patterns spread, too. But, I don't want too have more pattern spread on one side of the pattern than the other. Any man that is good enough to compensate for a poorly regulated gun could be a master shot with a regulated gun! But, he will never be with an unregulated gun.

SRH
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#493420 - 10/29/17 10:44 PM Re: Point of Aim [Re: builder]
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Registered: 05/14/04
Posts: 1755
Loc: New Jersey
I have made it a practice to make all my guns fit the same since I shoot all my guns. They have to all shoot at what I am looking at or I would be lost. They may swing differently but I can compensate for that. If I cannot make it fit then it goes down the road and hopefully it will fit the next guy.

I am still amazed that Kutter's fix worked and have been scratching my head at such a simple effective fix. Knowledge and experience such as Kutter's is invaluable. BTW, I spent a lot more time finding the larger sight than installing it. Not as easy to find it as I expected.

Thanks all for your help and comments. The education and friendship I have received from board members over the years is priceless to me.
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#493441 - 10/30/17 08:55 AM Re: Point of Aim [Re: builder]
Stan Offline
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Well done, builder. Advice is cheap, but it's not always as good as Kutter's.

Good shooting! SRH
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