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The shooting in Vegas ? Here's my take on it.

Any kind of shooting is tragic....even when done by a psycho.

No doubt if there such a thing as a demon it was in this guys head.

When I first heard the gunshots on TV I knew the guy had bump fire stocks...in fact he had 12 AR type rifles with bump fire stocks and I noticed a 60 or 100 round magazine on the gun shown on TV.

While our so called Politicians were a sleep at the wheel a guy came out with a stock that once installed basically turned a semi auto into a simulated full auto with a slightly less rate of fire....

The bump fire stocks combined with the higher than standard issue magazines once the gun started roaring this guy lost all reality to the point of no return.

The fight over magazine capacity is simple....standard issue for the firearm (which for an AR is 30 rds).

The bump fire stock or any kind of trigger crank should have never been legal. With a standard issue semi auto one has to think for a second before he pulls the trigger.

The politicians that allowed this to happen should be in jail.

Joe:

I will only point out to you that the ATF under Obama reviewed and approved the bump stock.

Rem

No doubt Obama wanted tragedy and the destruction of our country.

That's the one nobody wants to talk about! Don't count jOe short...Geo

jOe, I totally agree with you on the bump stock and magazine capacity. The intent of the law is clear and the bump stock crawled through a crack. Would new laws have prevented this maniac from destroying so many lives? I doubt it but we could at least claim the high moral ground.

If anyone thinks the left will stop with banning the bump fire stocks, they haven't been listening. This clown had about 12 AR 15&10 type guns with the bump fire stocks. Why so many? They have the reputation of being unreliable, as do the greatly oversize magazines. As verification of this, the Sheriff reported that "several" of the rifles had jammed in only 10 minutes of shooting( I know he sent an awful lot of ammo into the crowd). I think he knew they were not reliable and had the extra rifles to make up for this. The typical shooter won't be able to spend $100,000.00 on extra rifles, so maybe we are better off if they use an unreliable rifle that jams. As for myself, I have no use for these things, but I don't want the left to have an opening to redefine semiautomatic rifles/shotguns/pistols as machine guns. We already know they habitually use the terms interchangeably and want to outlaw all simiautomatics.
Mike

The shooter was supposed to be worth several million. He passed repeated back ground checks as he bought guns. He stayed under the radar in all respects so there was not warning of what might be coming. If true, he could have bought a fully automatic machine gun. They are out there, can be bought legally and transferred with the proper tax stamp from BATF. If he had a Browning 30 cal. instead of a cobbled up wannabe this death toll would have been much greater. How much carnage could a 30 cal., belt fed, Browning done? The death toll might be ten times as much. And a 50 cal. would be worse.

It is the motive that I can not understand. Was it related to side effects of his medication as some claim? Was he just insane because his father and other family members went off the rails? Did he just want fame at the end of his life? We may never know.

Only motive is the guy was sick in the head....a devil in his head.

Why speculate on his weapon choice it's already been brought out that the shooter was not that gun savvy....

I'd rather give up my right to own a bump fire stock and over standard capacity magazines than I would my right to own an AR 15 with standard issue magazines.

I really don't want to comment on this subject but am afraid where all this is headed. You can only look to Europe and the UK for the gun laws they have.
Emotions are high and the Powers to Be will have to do something.
I own an AR only because of the 2016 election and my fear of what would happen. I also own several high capacity magazines for the same reason.
As of this time I have not even shot the gun.
I am a shotgun guy like most of all of you. So the AR is only for home protection

In a country of 323,000,000 people, how do you control everyone, all the time? Answer: you don't. But somebody dropped the ball by not seeing this dude carrying all this gear into this hotel, and allowing him to set up all this without noticing SOMETHING.

And another thing: the sponsors and promoters of these outdoor events need to be acutely aware of the setting and whether it allows a high vantage point as this shooter had. No way for this to have happened without the position the shooter possessed.

No excuse for this to ever happen again in such a target-rich environment.
JR