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Amen Jagermeister. We've been hearing about your tire-kicking and window shopping for years now, yet you still can't find even one lousy double in your price range that suits you.

Too bad your idol Barack Obama didn't pass out double guns like he did Obama-phones to losers and pretenders like you. Haven't you been caught enough times telling us lies and fairy tales about guns you never actually owned, and fictitious incidents like that bullshit story you told us awhile back about someone getting shot during an accidental discharge in a gun shop. When pressed for details about when and where it allegedly occurred, you couldn't tell us anything. I wish I had the time right now to replay some quotes from you to illustrate the inconsistencies in stories about the guns you've claimed to own just in this year. But I'll get the chance to do it later, because frauds like you have no shame, even when caught in several lies.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: keith
Amen Jagermeister. We've been hearing about your tire-kicking and window shopping for years now, yet you still can't find even one lousy double in your price range that suits you.

Too bad your idol Barack Obama didn't pass out double guns like he did Obama-phones to losers and pretenders like you. Haven't you been caught enough times telling us lies and fairy tales about guns you never actually owned, and fictitious incidents like that bullshit story you told us awhile back about someone getting shot during an accidental discharge in a gun shop. When pressed for details about when and where it allegedly occurred, you couldn't tell us anything. I wish I had the time right now to replay some quotes from you to illustrate the inconsistencies in stories about the guns you've claimed to own just in this year. But I'll get the chance to do it later, because frauds like you have no shame, even when caught in several lies.


To prevent future accidents they have safety person checking all guns that come in and a large black bullet trap near the front door entrance.

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Just guessing, but there are probably 50,000 + old Damascus barreled SxS's still out there in "shootable? condition." All are at least a century old.

The fact that we hear of a few blowing out each year shouldn't be a big statistical surprise.

I was at a Sporting Clay range clubhouse this week, and the guys were passing around a recent stainless Taurus .357 revolver that had blown the cylinder and top strap due to a handloading error. STUFF HAPPENS!

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Of the few photos I have seen of blown up barrels, most have been fluid steel, not Damascus. That said, it would be very worthwhile to have a good analysis of the barrels that just blew up in Maryland.


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If Doc Drew gets his hands on them, they'll get a good analysis.

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Originally Posted By: gold40

I was at a Sporting Clay range clubhouse this week, and the guys were passing around a recent stainless Taurus .357 revolver that had blown the cylinder and top strap due to a handloading error. STUFF HAPPENS!

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You said it all in one word Taurus...junk

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I HAVE ONLY SEEN TWO BLOWUPS AND BOTH WITH FACTORY AMMO.
ONE WAS A MOSSBURG PUMP THAT WAS NEAR NEW AND THE OTHER A BROWNING GTI O/U WITH WINCHESTER TRAP AMMO.

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From the owners of a local skeet range who have had two blowups in more than 20 million rounds shot there. Both were hand loads. Nobody was hurt in either one.


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Don't be bad mouthing Teds pumper...

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Originally Posted By: RichardBrewster
Of the few photos I have seen of blown up barrels, most have been fluid steel, not Damascus. That said, it would be very worthwhile to have a good analysis of the barrels that just blew up in Maryland.


Same here, Richard. But given that the number of rounds fired through Damascus guns is tiny compared to the use to which guns with fluid steel barrels are put, that shouldn't come as a surprise. About all it tells us is that accidents happen, even with "modern" firearms. And, at least on occasion, using factory ammunition.

I don't think there's any good way we can compare Damascus blowups, in terms of how often it happens out of the number of rounds fired, to fluid steel catastrophic failures. And to that we might want to consider how often older (say maybe pre-WWII) fluid steel barrels blow compared to more modern ones. But there are a host of factors involved. Like older barrels having been honed, chambers lengthened, etc.

What it comes down to is that by exercising proper caution and common sense, we should be able to reduce these incidents significantly. But we'll never eliminate them totally.

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