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Fashioned a new spring for my Lefever G. The spring is dimensionally like the broken one that came of the gun. Since the original spring was broken and fell out, I wasn't able to make note of how it was secured in the frame. There's a pin that passes over the area where the bend of the top lever v-spring sits, and then on to retain the trip and spring.
What is the orientation of that pin to the v-spring: over, through, does it retain the spring at all? Even though the spring is no thicker than the original, it doesn't look like there's enough room for the pin to pass over. Not really enough room for the pin to pass between the legs either.
Any suggestions, or, anyone has a factory top lever spring they'd sell? Thanks.
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The radius of the spring seats in the milling in the frame. And the pin passes OVER top of it. It merely prevents the spring from walking up and out of the slit.
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Location is clear, it's the orientation of the pin. It doesn't seem to have enough room to pass of the thickness of the spring, even the broken factor spring.
By the way, have you come across any of these springs yet?
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Bill,
My apologies. To correct my post above. The pin for the trip is not related to retaining the top lever spring.
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Nothing to apologize for, Sir. Thank you for guidance. Clearly, I'm experiencing this particular repair for the first time.
I do not see a pin or screw that would retail the top lever spring, so I'll need to search for one. I figured out you can modify a v-style top lever spring from many English guns into a sie that will fit a Lefever. However, I've made mine too thin, attempting to fit it under the pin for the trip.
What part name would I search for that would locate the pin to secure the top lever spring?
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There is no pin that retains the top lever spring.
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That's great. One less part to find, but why is there a hole for one? Thanks.
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I don't know Lefevers, but many top lever springs have a round lug on the closed end that fits into a hole in the top tang. Mike
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That's great. One less part to find, but why is there a hole for one? Thanks. So you can drive out the pin that retains the trip.
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There's a larger hole below that one, above the rod for the cocking lever and hammers. I sent you a picture via e-mail.
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Resolved with a top lever spring from another gun, shaped to fit. There's a camming piece that attaches to the top lever inside the frame that presses on the spring, and also activates the safety.
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To close this topic out:
In my frame there is a small hole for the pin that captures the trip and trip spring.
Immediately below it there is a hole and divot further in the frame for a pin that helps retain the closed end of the top lever spring. You can get away with out it, since the the camming piece helps retain the top lever spring in it's slot, but having the pin at the other end helps stabilize the top lever and it feel smoother operating it.
Then of course below this is the keyed hole for the pin that passes through the hammers and cocking arm.
If anyone wants a picture, send me a PM with an e-mail address. I haven't picked a new place to host pictures from since leaving Photobucket.
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