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#488600 08/24/17 11:50 AM
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Grasping at straws in hope someone might recognize the name?
Purchased a Winchester 1885 Low Wall at our collector gun show last Sunday, and under the rear scope base is "Long Rifle" and below that, "H. Cartwright" on the barrel.
Barrel is a 28" #5 weight Stevens-Pope in .22LR, and gun has a custom stock fitted to the non factory curved lower tang. A neat little Low Wall, and would be neater if I might figure out who owned it, or fitted the Pope barrel to this 1885!




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Neat indeed! I would guess that this was done sometime in the first quarter of the 20th century, but only a detailed examination of the internals will tell you how much is the original gun, and how much was assembled from parts. Even that won't really give you much of a clue as to the guy who did the work unless somebody here is familiar with the name or you find more 'smith ID inside--on the wood, under the buttplate, etc.

Let us know how it SHOOTS! And what the scope is....

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Good idea on the buttplate; haven't looked there! I've had it all apart and no sign of any changes in the basic action except the extractor, which was reworked from CF to RF, and not like the typical Low Wall extractor. But it works great!

The scope is a Belding & Mull 6x from the 1920's, and something I already owned. It looked perfect for this era, so I decided to leave it on the gun. The B&M is unusual as the mounts have windage and elevation both front and rear!

Funny that it took me over 30 years to own a Pope barreled single shot. That finally happened in May this year at the Denver Gun Show when I purchased a Pope Ballard 3 barrel set, in a fitted case, with Pope's patented takedown system. Then 3 months later I stumble onto a 2nd Pope barreled rifle!

This one was owned by LG Priday of the 1919 Denver Rifle Club team that set the new team World Record that year, with a team score of 9956 out of 10,000!






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The takedown system on the three barrel set is fascinating.
Probably the most precise I have seen.
Chuck

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Thanks Chuck! It's truly a testament to the genius of H.M.Pope. He was granted the patent in 1888, when he was only 27 years old!






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Been doing some sprucing up on the 1885, and I think it's done, other than allowing a few weeks to totally dry before waxing the stocks.
The forearm had the bottom cut flat for a palm rest, so I filed it straight, and grafted in donor walnut from the mounting screw to the receiver edge on the bottom. The forearm repair came out better than I thought it would, and I found a replacement for my beloved Tapaderas N35 Win. red (ran out, and it seems they're out of business). Went to my local Woodcrafters and the guy there directed me towards "Transtint Bight Red" dye. It did a great job of duplicating the old Win. color from the 1800's! I used N35 on the buttstock, and the Transtint on the forearm, and got a good match.





And even more surprising was the deep cleaning I did on the barrel! I scraped the rust spots with a penny, and then went over them with 4/0 steel wool and 50-50 mix of acetone-ATF. Took all the loose stuff off the barrel, but left the patches of lightly pitted metal. I then took a very small 1/2"x1" long wood block, and wrapped it with 240 grit emery paper. I worked the pits out, and then used Oxpho Blue to touch up the bare spots. The barrel looks very nice, and no sign of the bad spots or repairs showing!
Done for now, and probably hit the range next week to see how it shoots!


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