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Argo, I've just come across "extérieur bronzage attenué à l'endroit du pouce".
Pretty sure it has something to do with pushrod ejector but neither google translate nor myself can make actual sense of it. The "bronzage" is throwing me.
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I'll take a stab at it and say, "case coloring eroded where the thumb rests..."
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Tim, I was wondering about something like that but in another part of the description he uses the term "jaspage".
So unless it's some linguistic oddity, if he used jaspage elsewhere, wouldn't he have used it in this case?
Whether I get it or not won't be the difference in buying or not buying the gun but I have been using this glossary of French terms and it has made things soooooooo much better. Google translate and my own school boy French is no match for the esoteric terms contained within double gun descriptions in French adverts.
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"extérieur bronzage attenué à l'endroit du pouce"
Canvasback, "bronzage" is barrel bluing/blacking....I think the ad is saying the bluing is eroded where the thumb touches it. Wonder if the guy had his front hand thumb on a hot barrel? Or whether it was his rear hand thumb in contact with the receiver somehow? Alternatively, "pouce" also means "inch." Curious...WC?
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Helpful hint: If you're at a loss for the name of some obscure part, to bring up schematics of particular French guns, google search "fusil de chasse schema" and click on image.
I'm going to post the following additions to the master list per the above suggestions if there are no objections:
Amorce - primer Bande a tenon d'accrochage s'encastrant dans la bascule - doll’s head Band de visee - ventilated rib Bec de Crosse - heel of the butt plate Chevrotines - buck shot (large shot 2 - 000) Clé Beringer - type of underlever also called Pontet-Serpent Clé de bascule - top lever key Culot - Brass base of the shotgun shell éjecteur/extracteur a grand développement - ejector contact point on the hull is over 1/4 of the circumference. Normally high-end guns only. Emouler de Canons de Fusil- Barrel Grinder/Polisher (archaic) étui - shell, cartridge Grenailles - smaller shot (in a shotgun shell) (4-9) Lefaucheux à clé - type of underlever Levier à volute - type of underlever Talon de crosse - upper point of the butt plate loupe d’accrochage - doll’s head Poignee - pistol grip polisseur - Barrel polisher Pontet-Serpent - type of underlever also called Clé Beringer Tirant de Crosse - Stock attachment bolt triple verrou Greener - a double Purdey bite and a Greener 3rd triple Verrou Purdey - a Purdey nose 3rd bite.
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The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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Labour of love indeed. What about the term "square shot"? Do not the French peddle a good deal of that?
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Darn it, first page is now locked; can't make anymore changes/additions unless I can get Dave to unlock it for editing.
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Ah, just grab it & make a new post:
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Abîmé(e) - spoiled/ruined/damaged Acier - steel Acier chocolat - excessively soft steel (Belgian trade vernacular) Acier damas (also "damas") - damascus steel Acier revenu - tempered steel Acier trempé - quenched steel Argent - silver ...vieil argent - old silver Ailes - side clips Âme du canon - bore Amortisseur - pad (as in buttpad) Ancien - old Anson et Deeley; Anson- box lock Arabesque - Scroll (engraving) Arme de poing - hand gun Arme d’épaule - long gun Armé - cocked Armurier - gun shop owner Armurerie - gun shop, not a maker, historically a body armor vendor Arquebusier - Gun maker (abbreviated as "Arqr") Artisan - artisan Avantage (à droite, à gauche) - cast-off, cast-on
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Baguette de nettoyage - ramrod, cleaning rod Banc d’épreuves - proof house Bande - rib ...Prolongement de la bande - extension of the rib (to the receiver) ...Bande ventilée - ventilated rib Balle - bullet or slug Bascule - receiver/action Bascule ronde - round receiver Basculeur - tradesman putting the action together Bille acier - steel shot Bois - wood ...Bois de noyer - walnut ......Noyer blond - blond walnut ...Bois d'érable - maple Boitier - housing Bouche - muzzle Bouchon de canon - bullet starter (muzzle loader) Bouchon de percuteur - Firing pin bushing Bouquets (gravure à) - rose engraving Bourre - wad Brasé - brazed ...brasé sur - brazed on Bretelle - sling ...Bretelle à enrouleur - retractable sling (like on a Ideal) ...Brettelle retractable - retractable (built in) sling Brevet - Patent Breveté(e) - patented ...Breveté(e) SGDG - model patent ("sans garantie du gouvernement")- Patented Without Guarentee of the Government". French distinction that designates a technical patent in the U.S. sense, as opposed to trademark and the old design patent number system that dealt only with name and shape. Brisure, à - Breakage Broche - pinfire Bronze - bronze; (copper and tin alloy) Bronzage - barrel blacking Busc - comb (for a stock)
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Cale - wedge (in a double rifle), or spacer between barrels Calibre - caliber Canon - barrel ...Canons frettés - sleeved barrel set (externally sleeved or jacketed, built-up barrels) ...Canons juxtaposés - SxS double barrel ...Canon lisse - smoothbore ...Canons miroir - mirror finish bores ......Canonnerie miroir - ditto ...Canons mixtes (Arme à) - cape gun ...Canon monobloc - Barrel set made in one block of steel ...Canon poli - honed barrel ...Canon rayé - rifled barrel ...Canon rayé dispersant -Rifled spreader barrel (usually Euro woodcock guns) ...Canons superposés - over/under Canonnier - barrel maker Capuche - metal piece surrounding the Deeley forearm push button Carabine - rifle, carbine Carabine de salon - indoor rifle Carabine de jardin - light rifle, rook rifle Cartouches à plombs - shot shell Cartouches à balle - slug shell Cartouche de rechargement - reloader Chambrage - chamber(ing) Chambre - chamber Chien - hammer … Crête de chien - hammer spur Chevrotines - buckshot. Chiens extérieurs - external hammers Choke - Choke … Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse) ... Demi choke - Modified choke ... Plein-full (as in choke Chêne - Oak Chromage - chromed bores Chromé(e) - chrome plated Clé - key Clé d’ouverture - top lever key Clé sur le dessus - top lever key Coffret - case (to put the gun in) Contre-platines - false side-plates Convergence - regulation (shotgun or double rifle) Coquille - action ball (fences) ...Coquilles de la Bascul - fences Coquille de fusil de chasse - empty shotgun shell casing; Husk or Hull Corne - horn Cran de sécurité - Safety catch Crête de chien - hammer spur Crochet - barrel lump ...Crochets d’attache - barrel lump ...Crochets ajustés en queue d’aronde - dovetailed lump ...Crochet du canon - same ...Crochet encastré - dovetailed lump (embedded) ...Crochets rapportés - non integral lumps Crosse - stock ...Crosse anglaise - English stock ...Crosse à joue - stock with cheek piece ...Crosse de borgne - crossover stock ...Crosse demi-pistolet - round knob grip stock ...Crosse pistolet - pistol grip stock Crossier - stock maker Cuir - leather (for the sling) ...Cuir surpiqué - double layered sown leather Cuivre - copper Culasse - standing breech or bolt Culasse mobile - movable breech (i.e. on a Darne) Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse)
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Damasquiné - damascened dans son jus - original, never modified or restored Demi-armé - half cocked (for hammer guns) Demi-bloc - chopper lump Détente - trigger ...Double détente - double trigger ...Monodétente - single trigger ......Monodétente sélective - selective single trigger Devant - forend Devant à pompe - Deeley pushbutton forearm D'occasion - used Doré - gold filled repoussé en ??? Double détente - double trigger double verrou de fermeture - double locking bolt
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Ébène - ebony Écouvillon - cleaning rod and implement ...Écouvillon en laiton - brass barrel (cleaning) brush écusson - shield (on a stock) éjecteurs automatiques - automatic ejectors enfoncements - dents Épreuves - proof ...Banc d’épreuves - proof house ...double épreuve - double proof ...triple épreuve - triple proof ...épreuve ordinaire - version of normal proof ...épreuve supérieure - modern day "triple proof" érable - maple (wood) état - condition ...état mécanique - mechanical condition ...état moyen - so so condition; medium condition ...état mauvais - bad condition …Pas en bon état - not in good condition ...état neuf - new condition étranglement - choke Etui - Gun case; gun slip Express (also double "express") - double rifle Extracteur - extractors
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Fabricant (also abbreviated as "Fabt") - maker Fausses-platines - false side-plates Feu central, arme à - centerfire (gun) Feuillet(s) - sight leaf Feutrine - baize (gun case) Fermeture en "T" - Jones underlever Finition - finish …Finition argent - silver finish …Finition blue - blued finish …Finition canon de fusil - gunmetal finish …Finition chromée - chrome finish …Finition nickelée - nickel finish. …Finition noir - blued finish Forage - bore (barrel) Frères - Brothers Frette - monoblock; Fusil - firearm (normally a shotgun but also a military rifle) ...Fusil à broche - pinfire gun ...Fusil à canon scié - sawed off shotgun ...Fusil à chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader ...Fusil à Chien - hammer gun ...Fusil de chasse - shotgun ...Fusil juxtaposé - double gun ... Fusil juxtaposé Artisanal Français - Artisanal French double gun (quite often maker not known) ...Fusils lever-action - lever action gun ......Fusil à levier de sous-garde - ditto ......Fusil levier sous garde - ditto ...Fusil à percussion - muzzle loading, percussion rifle ...Fusil à piston - percussion gun ...Fusil à pompe - pump gun (also "branlette" in French hunting vernacular) ...Fusil à silex - flintlock
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Gachette - sear Gachette interruptrice - safety sear Garnisseur - tradesman assembling barrels, ribs and lumps Graveur - engraver Gravure(s) - engraving(s) Grenadière - sling swivel Goupille - round pin Goupille de charnière - hinge pin Guidon - front sight ... protège-guidon - sight hood Guilloché(e) - ornamented with geometric design ...Vis guillochées - ornamented screws
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Hausse - back sight (originally adjustable type)
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Illisible - illegible
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Jaspage - case coloring Jaspé(e) - case colored Jaugé - guage Jaugé à - gauged, measured at Jaugé de chambre - chamber measuring gage Jeu - play (in the sense of movement) ...Jeu dans la bascule - (play in the receiver) ...sans jeu - without play Joue - cheekpiece ...Joue allemande - German style cheeckpiece Juxtaposé - side by side
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Laine d’acier - steel wool Laiton - Brass: alloy - 70 parts copper; 30 parts zinc Levier - Lever levier d'armement - cocking lever Levier de sécurité (ou sécurité) - safety lever Levier sous la longuesse - underlever Longuesse - forestock Longuesse à poussoir - Anson forend (forestock with pushrod release) Longuesse-sous- main amovible - underlever Lunette - scope
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Maniable - easy to the hand/handy Moitié armé - half cocked (for hammer guns) Mono-canon - single barrel Monodétente - single trigger Monteur à bois - stocker Moulé(e) - molded
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Nickelé(e) - nickel plated Noix - Hammer axis
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Oeilleton - peep sight Or - gold ...Or fin - fine gold doré - gold plated or gold applique Oreille - Sideclip Organes de visée - sights Orné(e) - ornamented Ouverture par clé devant pontet - underlever Oxydation - oxydation
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Paire - pair of guns Pente - drop ...Pente au busc - drop at comb ...Pente au talon - drop at heel Percussion centrale - center percussion, center fire (hammer gun) Percuteur - Firing pin Pièce d'armurerie - piece of firearms manufacture ??? Pierrage - honing Pique - pitted ...Piqûres - pitting ...Petites piqûres - light pitting Planchette - back sight folding leaf Plaque de couche - butt plate Plaqué(e) - plated Platine - side lock ...Platine Holland - front lock as made by H&H or others ...Platine arrière - back lock ...Platine avant - front lock ...Platine démontable - hand removable sidelock ...Platine encastrée - embedded locks ...Platine rebondissante - rebounding lock Plein--full (as in choke) Plomb - lead (shot) Poinçon - stamp ...Poinçons réglementaires - legal stamps ...Poinçons d'épreuve - proof marks Poire à poudre - powder horn; powder flask Poli(e) - polished polissage en long - longitudinal honing Poncée huile (Crosse) - sanded with oil finish (stock) Pontet - trigger guard Pontet à volute - trigger guard with volute in front Portée - range (as in shooting distance) Poudre - powder (gunpowder) ...Poudre blanche--smokeless powder ...Poudre pyroxylée - smokeless powder (French) ...Poudre sans fumée - smokeless powder ...Poudre Vive - smokeless Powder ( Belgian) Poussoir - push rod (forestock) propre - clean, nice
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Quadrillage - Checkering Quadrilleur - Checkerer Queue d’aronde - dovetail (old French for"swallow tail" which is more accurate than dove tail, actually)
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Rallonge de crosse - stock extension Rayé à chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader rifle Rayures - scratches or rifling Relevé - cocked Relime - steel parts shaping (by chisel or file) Relimeur - tradesman shaping the action and other parts Ressort - spring Ressort à boudin - Coil spring Restauration - restoration Réticule - Reticle (scope) Rinceaux - leaves and branches (engraving) Rouille - rust ...Rouille légère - light rust
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Sabot - butt pad Sabot - sabot projectile Scène de chasse - hunting scene (engraving) Sécurité - safety Sécurité dès qu'elle est arméee - safety automatically on when cocked Serré - tight SGDG - see Brevete SGDG Similor - alloy; 100 parts Red copper; 12 parts zinc Soudure - solder …Soudure d’argent/à l'argent - Silver solder …Soudure à l’étain - Tin solder (lead and tin mixed) …Soudure de cuivre - Copper brazing (red coper, old silver, antimony, zinc, etc.) Stéphanois - from Saint-Etienne region Successeur (also abbreviated to "succr") - Successor to Sûreté - safety
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Talon - heel Tire-cartouche - extracteur Tirette - action rod Tombac - alloy; 16 parts copper; 1 part zinc; 1 part tin Tonnerre - place where the ignition happen Triplette - 3-gun set Tromblon - blunderbuss (or bad shotgun) Tube - barrel tube Type anglais - English style
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Valise - Case Verrou - lock, also bolt Verrou de fermeture - closing bolt Verrou vertical - rising bite Verrouillage - locking system Vernis - varnish Vis - Screw
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