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If it's a settled law, Jack, there wouldn't have been all the sky is falling from originalists of Obama arrival or consequences of a Hilary win. The sky might have stayed where it is, but the living and the breathing of our Constitution would be breaking new ground with the folks that have the final say. Would that have settled it, or would they just be getting warmed up?
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If it's a settled law, Jack, there wouldn't have been all the sky is falling from originalists of Obama arrival or consequences of a Hilary win. Whichever side of any argument may be temporarily in power, the party in power would like their interpretation of the "Law" chiseled into stone tablets. It doesn't work that way. Nothing in government is permanent. If Trump stays put, we'll have a conservative Supreme Court for years to come. That's why I voted the way I did...Geo Looks like Craig had the same thought.
Last edited by Geo. Newbern; 07/01/17 11:32 AM. Reason: added final sentence
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Geo Newbern is correct. Settled law, and even the Constitution itself can be amended. I mentioned earlier that the Framers themselves instituted a legal process for that. I also noted that anti-gunners like you are always working to illegally go around that process by the use of unconstitutional laws, regulations, and Liberal left judicial activism. That's why intelligent gun owners don't vote for or support anti-2nd Amendment politicians as you do King. I find it odd that Geo Newbern considers you a friend, although you work so tirelessly to destroy something he purports to enjoy so much. I guess it's true... there's no accounting for taste. It's good to see that you recognize that Hillary and Obama are anti-gun... as you are King Brown. It's good to note again that you supported him and even lied to us here about his anti-gun legislative activities: It's hardly mean-spirited to note that I'm an Obama supporter. I'm proud of it, apparent here as long as he's been around. He's anti-gun but has kept his legislative gun in his holster to position his party for '16. The quote above takes us back to the quote I provided yesterday from Sara Brady about the necessity to do anything, even lie in order to bring about the eventual banning of all guns. You are a good little foot-soldier for the anti-gunners King. You lie to us all the time about your anti-gun rhetoric and sentiments. You often attempt to LULL U.S. gun owners into complacency about the threat that Liberal Left Democrats pose to our gun rights. If the 2nd-Amendment is ever damaged or eliminated, it will be because of anti-gunners like you King. Wherever there are infringements on the Constitutional Rights of law abiding gun owners, they come from anti-gunners just like you King. You can deny your anti-gun, anti-2nd Amendment, and anti-NRA sentiment all you want, but your continued attempts to deny and refute the clear language of the 2nd, and your attempts to subvert the clear meaning of simple words like "PEOPLE" show us that you are no friend to us. I wait for the day that I can memorialize you by posting all of your anti-2nd Amendment crap in Silent Doubles as an accurate representation of the Trojan Horse that so frequently lied to us and attempted to undermine us. Please hurry, you disgusting old fraud. By the way, you still didn't answer my questions. Sincerely, Selby Jack John M. Lowndes
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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keet: your shortsighted, overly zealous and hateful personal attacks here only weaken the strength of your positions...yours is a voice of tyranny, cleverly disguised as a voice of freedom...
keep it simple and keep it safe...
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Ed, Don't call me keet. My name is Selby. Or Jack. Or John M. Why don't you just call me Mr. Lowndes.... and I'll call you idiot. Ed you are equally well known as an anti-gun Troll here. Your most recent triumph was getting Dave to allow the Second Amendment Informational thread that was pinned to the top of the Forum Topics list to fade into the archives... all because you continually violated the rules and disrupted the intent. I make no secret of the fact that I hate people who work to undermine our Constitutional Rights. Good men fought and died to give us those rights, and anti-gun Trolls like you and King continually work to destroy them. I guess this is your idea of freedom: next question:
does the second amendment prohibit state and local governments from regulating the keeping of arms by the people?
i believe it does not...what say you? guess no body here has the balls to answer my question:
disarm...seems to work for the rest of the civilized world...
why not us?
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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You nailed it, Geo. That's the way it works. Thanks.
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Jack, every country disarms by regulation if persons don't meet a standard or violate the rules. Peace, order and good government.
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You nailed it, Geo. That's the way it works. Thanks. That's the spirit, so it's not always about dc and divisiveness. How else could a lower court way out in hawaii block a lawful executive order coming out of dc short of being on the talking point email alert list? Hmmm, maybe select judges do get their marching orders from their spiritual leaders, 'cept the two younger gals didn't read theirs in time, eh?
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Exactly King. I'd say there might be hope for you, but the people you are talking about other nations disarming by regulation are typically those who violate the law. We do the same here, and there is no resistance from law abiding gun owners or the NRA to keep guns out of the hands of violent felons. But there is no hope for you. You will continue to tirelessly seek out any loop-hole and torture the meaning of clear English in order to advance your anti-2nd Amendment dogma.
But many of the nations you wish for us to emulate also restrict the ownership of arms by law abiding citizens. The Liberal Left Socialist Democrat politicians that you support, defend, and lie for also wish to restrict and infringe upon the gun ownership rights of all citizens. That is why so many Democrats wish to follow the lead of countries like Great Britain and Australia, where entire classes of firearms are either prohibited or heavily restricted. We're talking about nations that even regulate the foot-pound energy output of pellet rifles.
Benjamin Franklin famously commented your notions of " Peace, order and good government."
“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
So did Thomas Jefferson, and many others:
“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” – Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787
We have no problem if you wish to live in Socialist slavery King. We have no problem if you personally wish to give up your guns. In fact, you probably should be denied the ownership of guns considering your deranged mental state. We already know by your own admission that you have illegally transported your handgun back and forth across the U.S.- Canadian Border, and that you then subsequently denied that felonious act... even after your own exact words were quoted for you. You went so low as to call me a liar, when it was you who was lying once again.
You've also spent several days preaching, posting, and defending an anti-gun sentiment. Yet I'm certain you are so sick that you would still deny ever seeing any anti-gun sentiment here on this forum. But for you lying comes as naturally as breathing or posting your anti-2nd Amendment crap.
Please don't make us wait much longer to post your anti-gun legacy in the "Silent Doubles" memorial forum. Please hurry. Don't you want to see if you can abuse your poor dog Jake in the afterlife?
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Ed, Don't call me keet. My name is Selby. Or Jack. Or John M. Why don't you just call me Mr. Lowndes.... and I'll call you idiot. Ed you are equally well known as an anti-gun Troll here. Your most recent triumph was getting Dave to allow the Second Amendment Informational thread that was pinned to the top of the Forum Topics list to fade into the archives... all because you continually violated the rules and disrupted the intent. I make no secret of the fact that I hate people who work to undermine our Constitutional Rights. Good men fought and died to give us those rights, and anti-gun Trolls like you and King continually work to destroy them. I guess this is your idea of freedom: next question:
does the second amendment prohibit state and local governments from regulating the keeping of arms by the people?
i believe it does not...what say you? guess no body here has the balls to answer my question:
disarm...seems to work for the rest of the civilized world...
why not us?
Michael Dittamo Topeka, KS
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