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Gents,
I've been looking for a good condition Webley Scott 700 for a while now (Grouse/Woodcock), and I seem to find a lot of the 26" Bbl models, but the 28" is harder to find, particularly in better condition. Ideally I'd like a sub 6lb 16 or 20. I've only had one previous gun at 26", a rather heavy Citori 12g and it didn't swing very well at all (for me). Formerly used to use a 28" Arrieta 20g for Upland.
-Will the 26" guns hold their value going forward. Many seem to languish on dealer shelves, I've seen the same ones for a while now.
-Toward the end of production did Webley make more of the 26" Bbl guns?
-Is there a practical difference in SxS guns in the swing/feel of the 26 v 28
-Other thoughts and your opinions appreciated on this issue that has been around For Ever. Just stirring up some discussions.
Last edited by bls; 06/28/17 08:21 AM.
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Well, in the vein of "stirring up some discussion" 26" barrels look stumpy and ugly on a SxS. 28" is good and 30" is better, especially on a 16 gauge. If I thought harder this morning I'm sure I could come up with some "technical" reasons why longer is better. Ask your wife! In the meantime, I'm going with elegant appearance. LOL 
Last edited by canvasback; 06/28/17 08:16 AM.
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I think barrel length is a matter of personal preference. Having said that, I prefer 28" for grouse and woodcock. I'm not sure why except that I'm 6' 1" tall. In tournament guns, the 26" are real dogs in terms of the market. Game guns are a little more forgiving, but still not as popular as longer barreled guns. I think 26" are clearly harder to sell at this point in time. That may be a fad and may change down the road, but for now.... In terms of grouse and woodcock, hunting in a woods, many shots taken quickly and with a sort of spray and pray type of shot, I really doubt if 28" are an advantage over 26". 30" in an aspen thicket might even be a hindrance. Just my humble opinion though which is what you asked for. ;-)
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I think sub 6lb in a 16 bore Scoot 700 is unlikely. I just sold a 26" barreled model to a forum member and it came in at 6lbs 3 ozs if memory serves. Many Brit 16's will come in under 6 lbs though, I have 16 bore Kirk for sale in the classifieds at 5lbs 14ozs w 26" tubes. I tend to take a longer LOP so usually lean towards longer barrels but my current grouse gun is a 12 bore with 25" barrels at 6lbs even. I really like it.
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Why are you buying it? For looks? To resell? Or to use? If the latter, if it fits, feels good between the hands and YOU WANT it..Thats all you need to know
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I prefer 26 inch barrels for grouse and woodcock. Bobby
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Agree with Buzz and Bobby that 26" barrels (or even a bit shorter) probably aren't a detriment if you're hunting woods birds. And 26" barreled OU's used to be quite popular with skeet shooters. Now, with Sporting Clays guys going to longer barrels, they seem to be the "in" thing.
Re barrel length and weight: I have a W&S 700 16ga with 28" barrels (and a leather-covered pad) that's dead on at 6 lbs. Recently swapped a Francotte 16ga, 26" barrels, to a good friend. It's just a shade over 5 3/4#. So they are out there. If you're looking W&S, you're much more likely, I think, to find a 20ga than a 16. And most of those--even the ones made with 3" chambers, for the American market--will be sub-6#. I had a 720 (702 made for the American market with 3" chambers) that weighed under 5 3/4. I never had the nerve to touch off a magnum in that gun!
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Any perceived difference between 26" and 28" is completely irrelevant in the grouse coverts. A gun's value is irrelevant in the grouse coverts. Future value of one barrel length as compared to another is irrevelant in the grouse woods.
Buy the gun that feels best to you and enjoy it for the pleasure it brings you in the grouse woods.
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IMO as long as the 26" gun isn't muzzle light it doesn't matter. I did own one Fox 26" 16 gauge that weight 5 lb 10 ounces and it was very muzzlelight. Muzzlelight to the point I ended up selling it. It was a very good Woodcock gun for close quarters battling, but for a crossing 35 yard shot at grouse it was hard to control.
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Beside all that a 26" goes off like a howitzer.
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