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....Opposition MPs say training isn't killing but a response is training for marking targets.... Maybe there is a directive for impersonally disengaged distances. Seems like the prime debaters feel obligated to participate, but don't have the will to win?
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More like stupidity and farce than willfulness, craig. There's a bunch of white guys who don't like what other people do in countries mostly of colour so they decide to take democracy to them and tell them how to run their affairs. It hasn't worked out too good with preceding empires and it doesn't look good for this one, still holed up in our forts while outsiders make the rules, eh? Try to keep cool.
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More like stupidity and farce than willfulness, craig. There's a bunch of white guys who don't like what other people do in countries mostly of colour so they decide to take democracy to them and tell them how to run their affairs. It hasn't worked out too good with preceding empires and it doesn't look good for this one, still holed up in our forts while outsiders make the rules, eh? Try to keep cool. King, aren't you aware that at least as often as Americans think they need to go "take democracy" somewhere, there is some tyrant behaving badly and the world asks America to go????
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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So-- what does all this have to do with the moderators definition for the purpose of this forum?? Maybe better addressed in an another forum?? I thought this was a shotgun forum. I agree. Let me help. This is to marksman rifle what Purdey or Holland & Holland is to game gun. It's made in Brimingham next to this gunsmith's business. How cool is that..... [video:youtube] https://youtu.be/hessOd6uObs[/video] This is real 007 marksman rifle Kaliber 6,5x47 Lapua being made for agencies of the British Government. As I said previously I'm very, very happy living in my own little universe. 
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James, replying to craig's question concerning our debate of how we assign duties to our military, I said it seemed more farce and stupidity than what he was suggesting---and I was aware members know white guys include more than Americans. The hypocrisy sickens to the point of becoming more pacifist by the day. I don't believe in peace at any price but we pay a high cost morally for membership in good standing of the West. I'd feel better if I thought its current efforts are an improvement.
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So-- what does all this have to do with the moderators definition for the purpose of this forum?? Maybe better addressed in an another forum?? I thought this was a shotgun forum. Not only a shotgun forum Walter, but a DOUBLE shotgun forum. That means shotguns with two barrels... the kind that Jagermeister doesn't even own. However, every kind of off-topic subject under the sun is typically tolerated except for those dealing with gun rights. For some reason, that controversial subject really raises the hackles of those like the anti-gunner King Brown, who continually attempt to suppress or derail them. Just look at all of the off-topic political crap that King has posted in just this one thread. This is the same guy who has repeatedly said this: Whatever Dave does with this dissolving phantasmagoria, my hope is that there's a cleanup of all the political partisanship and slogans, jingoism, imputing of motives and citizenship, and it's packed it off to another place on the board. I'm here to learn about doubles. I don't give a tinker's dam about someone's father or politician unless it relates to gun provenance or some activity in the shooting sports. Of course, that bold-faced lie came from the same King Brown who recently defended his lack of credibility in another recent off-topic thread that was locked by Dave (post #483156): Understood, Stan. My credibility is so rarely questioned here that I assume sincerity and try to respond with calm reason. I thought this was a reasoned and thoughtful reply to that pure and totally dishonest bullshit: "King", the reason your credibility is rarely questioned here is that you have NO credibility here. I, certainly, do not suffer Marxists well.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Ah, Jack---as your friends call you; John M seems so formal---you remain snarky. Super turn you down? Your alma mater would be disappointed that you of all people, principal arbiter of my credibility, were blinded like Pete to the obvious irony of my post. And, rifles have always been part of our family friendly forum. Other topics enter from time to time but that's as any conversation of shared interests
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King you shouldn't be so modest. You should tell your new imaginary friend Jack about one of your favorite "other topics" that you enjoy... i.e., bashing our 2nd Amendment, our NRA, and our gun rights, and then dishonestly claiming that you have never seen any anti-gun sentiment on this board. I suppose it could be Altzheimers disease, or just plain old run of the mill mental illness... The Court departed from the original understanding of the Second. The NRA and other groups rejected the original interpretation. Even as late as 1991, the jurist Burger appointed by Nixon said "the Second Amendment has been the subject of one of the greatest pieces of fraud, I repeat the word 'fraud,' on the American public by special interest groups that I have ever seen in my lifetime." In 2008, in the District of Columbia v. Heller, what Burger said was fraud was accepted by the court. Interesting stuff. Ed, historically the individual "right" to bear arms is relatively new. I believe John Ashcroft in 2002 became the first federal attorney-general to proclaim that individuals should be able to own guns. The Supreme Court in 2008 overturned all mainstream legal and historical scholarship by ruling that there is an individual right to own firearms although with some limits. Obama said it again last week.
I believe that during the previous 218 years the Second meant what it said: firearms shall be held by "the People"---a collective and not individual right---insofar they are in the service of "a well-regulated militia." Was an individual right even mentioned at the Constitutional Convention or in the House when it ratified the Amendment or when debated in state legislatures? I don't think so. Gun control doesn't work? I believe gun control works reasonably generally in Canada, providing a less violent society compared to some others, in good part because of our different culture.
A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.
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Just picked up on this one as computer has been down. Someone asked about hearing the shot at that distance. I used to shoot full bore rifle in competition using the 7.62mm. Long range comp. was at 900 then 1,000 yards. On a normal day that round goes subsonic somewhere between those distances and can make a real mess of the score due to its instability as it goes back through the sound barrier. On one occasion I was in the target butts when someone had a go with an old 577/450 Martini Henry. We would here on the radio, 'he's fired' then a muffled boom then a 'Zizzing' sound as the tumbling bullet passed over. He never did hit the target.
Good books on sniping; 'Sniping in France' Maj. Hesketh Pritchard. 'Out of Nowhere' Martin Pegler and 'Sniping in the Great War' by the same author. All highly recommended. Lagopus.....
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Your alma mater would also be surprised an alumnus is now diagnosing mental illness as any disagreement with your notions. But should I slip into dark areas it will be without any of your spite and spleen toward others.
It's remarkable that you find historical citations above by conservative jurists and others as Second bashing by me. You haven't refuted them although I think you said Nixon's Burger was not a conservative.
Because you didn't agree with him?
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