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I'm looking at an engraved 16x16x9.3x72R sidelock Sauer drilling that the owner says is a Model 3000 "LG". Never heard of it. Knowledgeable friend of mine says it's a pre-war Sauer 25A. Any thoughts? Sauer 3000 LG
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This is a mod 25 a pictured in Jim Cate's book "J.P. Sauer &Sohn, Suhl-Waffenstadt page 257. Cheers, Marc.
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Marc, very helpful thanks. Looks like it's a Model 25a made in about 1922.
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Marc, any source for the rough value of one of these "luxury grades" in VG condition?
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Raimey, I see you're the "Krupp Expert". Any way of finding a resource for the minimum barrel wall thickness of the 16 ga. Sauer 25a drilling I'm considering?
They are Krupp Laufstahls from Essen.
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Well, good question, if the barrels are spotless en the barrel thickness is good and there is no play in the action. These sell here between 1800/ 2500 € You can ask for a second opinion from my Swedish friend P-O Haggards who is the Sauer specialist this is his e-mail adress: haggards@telia.com Cheers, greetings from Belgium, Marc.
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Sam, When you travel from NC to FLA and back, do you drive I 85? If so you cross the ALA/GA line 12 miles from my house. Mike
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We general drive east to the coast on I 26 to I 95 then down to Bradenton. I'd like to meet you one day.
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VERY bottom of the ad says
Description: Shotgun barrels must be relined and firearm is unsafe to fire in current form.
USAF RET 1971-95
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True & if this is the Gun I believe it is, That description was provided by Cabela's. I would be asking why are they unsafe & what are the barrel wall thickness measurements so as to make an informed decision, The Gentleman asking is aware & has explored lining costs. m-4
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Sam, Maybe it will work out that we can meet, some time, I would enjoy that. Mike
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I wouldn't hold w/ any thickness values provided by a steel maker, although for now I am not aware of such. I'd hold w/ Dr. Drew's empirical data as well as composed data. I realize mostly verbiage but there are mins to which one can hold.
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