May
S M T W T F S
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Who's Online Now
5 members (Argo44, bigblock, Jtplumb, earlyriser, 1 invisible), 223 guests, and 8 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums10
Topics38,537
Posts546,033
Members14,420
Most Online1,344
Apr 29th, 2024
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 9 of 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 222
Likes: 46
Sidelock
***
OP Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 222
Likes: 46
New article "Deeley`s ejector" in the blog. Welcome.

www.shotguncollector.com

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 222
Likes: 46
Sidelock
***
OP Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 222
Likes: 46
The Beginning of the Steel Age. https://shotguncollector.com/2017/06/21/the-beginning-of-the-steel-age/

At the request of readers from Sweden. Interpreter Mr. Alex Morozov. If you see any factual or language issues in this story, please, don't hesitate to comment on it!

www.shotguncollector.com

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 9,430
Likes: 315
Sidelock
***
Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 9,430
Likes: 315
Well done Igor.

Did you see the discussion here about early British fluid steels?
http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=482352&page=2
Wm. Powell & Son used Whitworth for barrels in 1875. The first Purdey Pair Nos. 10614 & 10615 were delivered January 1, 1880 with the “New Whitworth Fluid Pressed Steel”. Lefever Arms Co. was the first U.S. maker to supply Whitworth steel for their Optimus in 1887. Parker Bros. used Whitworth for the first AAH Pigeon Gun in 1894 SN 79964 delivered to Capt. Du Bray. Hunter Arms first offered Whitworth on the Monogram, A2, and A3 in 1895.

Sir Joseph clearly won the marketing war, but it is my opinion that by the 1880s Siemens-Martin steel was very good stuff and likely used on many more quality British doubles.

A third chart in the 1891 Birmingham Proof House Report is frequently overlooked, and was generated based on the cumulative grains of powder plus the grains of shot yielding seven “First Class” barrels:
English Steel, Siemens – Martin process
English machine-forged variegated Damascus, 2 rods
English “Superior Barrel Steel”
Foreign Steel, Siemens – Martin process
English machine-forged best Damascus, 4 rods
English machine-forged chequered Damascus, 2 rods
Foreign Steel

“Second Class” was English steel, basic open hearth process and English steel, Siemens – Martin process; special mix.

The Phase One winners, Whitworth and Laminated Steel made up the “Third Class”.

And no Krupp samples were included in the Trial.


And why no mention of Sergei Aleksandrovich Buturlin's Drobovoe Ruzhze Istrelz Ba Iz Nego?!? wink
BTW: your much appreciated and valuable translation thereof MAY appear in the upcoming Summer Double Gun Journal

Feel free to use anything here for Part 2 of your article smile
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dnRLZgcuHfx7uFOHvHCUGnGFiLiset-DTTEK8OtPYVA/edit

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 222
Likes: 46
Sidelock
***
OP Offline
Sidelock
***

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 222
Likes: 46
Drew, many thanks. Very valuable comments. I would like to study this information more thoroughly.

Page 9 of 9 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9

Link Copied to Clipboard

doublegunshop.com home | Welcome | Sponsors & Advertisers | DoubleGun Rack | Doublegun Book Rack

Order or request info | Other Useful Information

Updated every minute of everyday!


Copyright (c) 1993 - 2024 doublegunshop.com. All rights reserved. doublegunshop.com - Bloomfield, NY 14469. USA These materials are provided by doublegunshop.com as a service to its customers and may be used for informational purposes only. doublegunshop.com assumes no responsibility for errors or omissions in these materials. THESE MATERIALS ARE PROVIDED "AS IS" WITHOUT WARRANTY OF ANY KIND, EITHER EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANT-ABILITY, FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE, OR NON-INFRINGEMENT. doublegunshop.com further does not warrant the accuracy or completeness of the information, text, graphics, links or other items contained within these materials. doublegunshop.com shall not be liable for any special, indirect, incidental, or consequential damages, including without limitation, lost revenues or lost profits, which may result from the use of these materials. doublegunshop.com may make changes to these materials, or to the products described therein, at any time without notice. doublegunshop.com makes no commitment to update the information contained herein. This is a public un-moderated forum participate at your own risk.

Note: The posting of Copyrighted material on this forum is prohibited without prior written consent of the Copyright holder. For specifics on Copyright Law and restrictions refer to: http://www.copyright.gov/laws/ - doublegunshop.com will not monitor nor will they be held liable for copyright violations presented on the BBS which is an open and un-moderated public forum.

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.0.33-0+deb9u11+hw1 Page Time: 0.049s Queries: 23 (0.029s) Memory: 0.8265 MB (Peak: 1.9024 MB) Data Comp: Off Server Time: 2024-05-18 13:16:59 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS