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Had my mouth all set for some tasty Celtic engraing...What part is Irish?
Best,
Ted

The engraving is by Kell. That's all Digs email said.

Thanks Mike - much appreciated.

This is a 1928 Kell-engraved Purdey. Re-barrelled in 2001 by Purdey and re-stocked the same year. While we were on the stock finish thread I thought the finish and figure in this one would be nice for people to see. The Irish connection? It came from a chap in Ireland!

I think this is agreat example of how an original action can be turned into a new gun (better than new?) at a quarter of the price of new and without the long waiting list.

I've been out with it today busting afew clays and it shoots as good as it looks.

Small Bore:

That is a beautiful gun. As you know, I have been searching here in the USA for about a year looking for a nice Purdey, H&H or Boss. If you do not mind me asking, what would that gun cost to purchase today?

Ken
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Photos disappeared. I have reloaded them.

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What's up with that Italian-style wood? I mean that butt is fit for gigolo!

Hey Jagermeister watch yourself there. Besides I think it has more of a Tyrolean look to it!
Jim

Both of you bozos know full well that piece of wood is very appropriate for this fine gun. You're just jealous, like me. The freshly nitre blued pins look great. I only wish I could afford one fine gun like this perhaps instead of several of the numerous midling guns I have.

You guys must be used to that fine grained balsa wood look. While this stock exceeds the traditional plain and straight grained "English" look, if you really don't find it a beauty you might consider enrolling in an art appreciation course at your local remedial trade school.

This stock has line and fine proportion, grip style and contrasting grain to rate a 12 on a scale of 10...it's a "wow".

Sharps, totally agree, :-) WOW!

JC(AL)

Dig, Congratulations, a fine gun anyone would be proud to own. Did they use dummy locks to inlet and finish the new stock? I would think trying to inlet finished locks would drive the stockmaker round the bend.

The blue on the lock pins and hinge caps has the look of anodizing. Never seen anything like that contrast with the bar. Must be the "fresh" look.

jack

Nice wood porn!

It's a beautiful gun but I have to agree the wood is a bit excessive. Kinda like seeing a couple gold teeth on Prince William.

The stock blank cost a fortune and gave the stocker many sleepless nights but the client insisted on it being this highly figured. The POW grip provides more strength in the hand and was a good idea.

The gun handles beautifully and looks even better in the flesh than in the photos. All the work was done properly by Purdey men - barrels by Purdey (done through Audley House), stock by Purdey stocker - everything else by Purdey finisher. No corners cut.

I can't afford it either but at least I get to play with these things until they find a new home

It caused quite a stir when I took it to the old Boss shooting ground on the A1 to let a potential buyer have a go with it.

Dig-

Thank you very much for the pictures. Can you give us some ranges of what it costs to have the gun rebarreled and restocked by Purdey, and compare it to an equivalent new Purdey? Also, what range would you see the resale value of this piece falling into, and how would that compare to a new one?

I too find the stock a little out of balance with the rest of the gun, but it defintely is a very nice stick.

If that wood is too much for the Purdy...What gun would you guys say that piece of wood belongs on ?

Re-barrelling by Purdey is up to around £11,000 now.

Re-stocking is around £6,500.

I can get the work done to the same standard by Purdey men for £4,500 for barrels and £2,200 (plus wood) for stocking. Add another £1,100 for re-stocking the forend.

This gun is basically a new Purdey on a 1920s action and furniture which are all in fantastic condition. A new gun would cost £57,000 plus VAT and you can't order Harry Kell engraving on a new gun! This one is up for £20,000.

Maybe a Beretta?

On a Purdey it looks a bit nouveau riche.

Still and all, I wouldn't throw it in the fireplace...

Wow! If you go with the former Purdey men you can really save some money.

Out of curiosity, how much would it cost for Purdey to have one of their current engravers do the same apttern on a gun today? ~$8500-10,000 US (just a SWAG)?

I know with British single shots, many people think they are over priced. But if you were to have the same engraving pattern reproduced today, it would cost as much as the sales price of the rifle. So basically you buy the engraving and get the rifle for free!!!

Homelss-
If you do a search, there was a thread devoted to the topic of "over the top" wood just a few weeks ago. Both sides give their take on the subject

jOe obviously has misplaced his history reading on Purdey the elder, and his opinion on the wood to be used on Purdey guns.
Best,
Ted

I like my wood and women the same way. Lots-o-figure!

I'll bet you guys who think the wood shows a bit too much "sass" for that staid old Purdey metal work have cloth seats in your Rolls Royce too.

"I'll bet you guys who think the wood shows a bit too much "sass" for that staid old Purdey metal work have cloth seats in your Rolls Royce too. "

Poor analogy. Leather is the standard for Rolls Royce; two tone neon leather with angel hair accents is not.

Two possiblities exist here. One is that classic British understatement is needed for the wood on the gun, or people are jealous.

Thanks for the education Greg. I never would have guessed that Connolly Leather seats were standard on a Rolls. Cloth is, of course, a special option at extra cost.
Never the less, I am sure the Purdey stocker worked on this blank of walnut under extreme duress and is probably under the care of good therapist since it's completion
If you think this particular stick of wood is in poor taste, then I have some great broom stick handles you'd be comfortable putting on your Mossberg...send me a PM and I'll give you a good price.

I took it in on Thursday, showed it to a client on Saturday - he bought it today. The phone keeps ringing.

Perhaps I under-valued it!

Wow, that is a fast turnaround!

Don't know if you saw my last question, as folks are rehashing an old debate on your thread. Do you know the price range it would cost to have "standard" Purdey engraving performed on a gun today? I took a SWAG at $8500-10,000 US. ANy ideas what it would cost in the UK today?

That is a very good question and one that is hard to answer.

When a new gun is ordered, price is quoted with 'standard fine' engraving inclusive. 'Extras' are added according to what you want, who does it etc so if you want Phil Cogan or Marcus Hunt to engrave it, they will quote for the job according to what you want.

Since almost nobody has a gun totally re-engraved in fine rose and scroll in the way they may have a gun totally re-barrelled or re-stocked, it is hard to separate the cost of this engraving from the product.

What we are asking here is "How much would it cost for an engraver currently engraving Purdey guns to put full-coverage rose and scroll on a new gun?"

David Sinnerton recently made a Purdey type sidelock and had it engraved - I'll try and find out what it cost him.



I will investigate further.

I feel it is only proper to find highly figured wood to be disgusting and tell the world so. This in hopes that high prised blanks will come down, where the average wood freaks can afford them.

I feel it to be totally improper to make the price of a wood fix so high that we junkies have to sell the first born just for a little relief from the monkey that rides are back.

Dig-
I have not priced the shotgun engraving over here, but I know it would run around $6500 to get a Henry single shot rifle pattern done. You can still find Henrys for that price, so i figure if you have the cash, then it is the perfect way to get a free gun! All you have to do is buy the engraving.

I am really interested to hear some price ranges for "typical" Purdey engraving. When rebuilding guns, the engraving that is already there helps tip the "rebuild vs. buy new" balance in the pre-owned's favor.

Hickory Dickory Hadoke,
Harry K's tools run up the lock-eys:
Former Purdey men apply their ken,
Stockers ply their scary zen;
The end result is simply chokey!

What a great gun! KBM

KBM,
I wouldn't give up my day job to become a poet!!! Phew!!

The subliminal message in them swirls screams: 'Italians do it better!'

That was a gOOd one..lol.

I take you were talking about noodles.

Purdy was using good looking wood in 1878.

Jagermeister:
There are a lot of things that Italians do better. However; Conquering the world isn't one of them.
Jim

Jim - I seem to recall that they got quite close at one point in history. Had Hermann the Cherusker not stopped then in Germania, we might live in a decidedly more Italian world.

They are about 100 years too late to conquer the shotgun world.

Although you have to admit, they've pretty much conquered the over/under shotgun world.

What's an over/under ?