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As a collective effort on the Verney-Carron Heliduplex line, myself, Wildcattle, L.Brown and Ellenbr have come up with a list of French gun terms and their translation. (thanks to WC for doing a lot of the heavy lifting). I'm copying the list below for reference to assure it doesn't get lost. It is presented without the masculine/feminine articles le, la, les etc. for ease in ordering the terminology.
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A
Abîmé(e) - spoiled/ruined/damaged Acier m - steel …Acier chocolat - excessively soft steel (Belgian trade vernacular) …Acier damas (also "damas") - damascus steel …Acier revenu - tempered steel …Acier trempé - quenched steel Alésage -boring (barrels) l’anglaise bouquet - English rose (engraving term Argent m - silver ...Vieil argent - old silver Ailes f - side clips Alliage - Alloy Âme du canon f - bore Amorce f - primer Amortisseur m - pad (as in buttpad) Ancien - old Anson et Deeley; Anson m - box lock Arabesque f - scroll (engraving) Arme f - weapon Arme de poing f - hand gun Arme d’épaule f - long gun Arme à percution centrale f - centerfire gun Armé - cocked Armurier m - gun shop owner Armurerie f - gun shop, not a maker, historically a body armor vendor Arquebusier m - Gun maker (abbreviated as "Arqr") Artisan, artisane - artisan (male, female) Avantage (à droite, à gauche) - cast-off, cast-on
B
Baguette de nettoyage f - ramrod, cleaning rod Banc d’épreuves m - proof house Bande f - rib …Prolongement de la bande - extension of the rib (to the receiver) …Bande ventilée - ventilated rib …Bande a tenon d'accrochage s'encastrant dans la bascule - doll’s head …Band de visee - ventilated rib Balle f - bullet or slug Bascule f - receiver/action …Bascule ronde - round receiver Basculeur m - tradesman putting the action together Bec m - heel …Bec de Crosse - heel of the butt plate Bille acier f - steel shot Bois m - wood ...Bois de noyer - walnut ......Noyer blond - blond walnut ...Bois d'érable - maple Boite a Fusil - gun case Boitier m - housing Bouche f - muzzle Bouchon de canon - bullet starter (muzzle loader) Bouchon de percuteur - Firing pin bushing Bouquets (gravure à) - rose engraving Bourre - wad Bourrelet--rim (of shell) Brasé - brazed ...brasé sur - brazed on Bretelle - sling ...Bretelle à enrouleur - retractable sling (like on a Ideal) ...Brettelle retractable - retractable (built in) sling Brevet - Patent Breveté(e) - patented ...Breveté(e) SGDG - model patent ("sans garantie du gouvernement")- Patented Without Guarentee of the Government". French distinction that designates a technical patent in the U.S. sense, as opposed to trademark and the old design patent number system that dealt only with name and shape. Brisure, à - Breakage Broche - pinfire Bronze - bronze; (copper and tin alloy) Bronzage - barrel blacking Brosse - gun cleaning bore brush Busc - comb (for a stock)
C
Cale - wedge (in a double rifle), or spacer between barrels Calibre - caliber Canon - barrel ...Canons frettés - sleeved barrel set (externally sleeved or jacketed, built-up barrels) ...Canons juxtaposés - SxS double barrel ...Canon lisse - smoothbore ...Canons miroir - mirror finish bores ......Canonnerie miroir - ditto ...Canons mixtes (Arme à) - cape gun ...Canon monobloc - Barrel set made in one block of steel ...Canon poli - honed barrel ...Canon rayé - rifled barrel ...Canon rayé dispersant - Rifled spreader barrel (usually Euro woodcock guns) ...Canons superposés - over/under Canonnier - barrel maker Capuche - metal piece surrounding the Deeley forearm push button Carabine - rifle, carbine Carabine de salon - indoor rifle Carabine de jardin - light rifle, rook rifle Carnier - Shotshell pouch Cartouches à plombs - shot shell Cartouches à balle - slug shell Cartouche de rechargement - reloader Chambrage - chamber(ing) Chambre - chamber Chêne - Oak Chargette - powder measure Chasse - Hunting Chasse (m) sous Bois - Upland woods hunting Chevrotines - buck shot (large shot 2 - 000) Chien - hammer …Crête de chien - hammer spur …Chiens extérieurs - external hammers Choke - Choke …Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse) …Demi choke - Modified choke …Plein - full (as in choke) Chromage - chromed bores Chromé(e) - chrome plated Ciselures sur les coquille - shell motif on fences (engraving term) Clé - key …Clé Beringer - type of underlever also called Pontet-Serpent …Clé de bascule - top lever key …Clé devant pontet - underlever (Lefraucheux). …Clé d’ouverture - opening key …Clé longueur - side lever …Clé sur le dessus - top lever key Coffret - case (to put the gun in) Contre-platines - side-plates Convergence - regulation (shotgun or double rifle) Coquille - action ball (fences) ...Coquilles de la Bascul - fences . .Coquilles ciselures - shell motif on fences (engraving term) Coquille de fusil de chasse - empty shotgun shell casing; Husk or Hull Corne - horn Corps de platines - side plates Cran de sécurité - Safety catch Crête de chien - hammer spur Crochet - barrel lump ...Crochets d’attache - barrel lump ...Crochets ajustés en queue d’aronde - dovetailed lump ...Crochet du canon - same ...Crochet encastré - dovetailed lump (embedded) ...Crochets rapportés - non integral lumps Crosse - stock ...Crosse anglaise - English stock ...Crosse à joue - stock with cheek piece ...Crosse de borgne - crossover stock ...Crosse demi-pistolet - round knob grip stock ...Crosse pistolet - pistol grip stock Crossier - stock maker Creusot? - hammered? (Perhaps referring to a town known for forging. Cuir - leather (for the sling) ...Cuir surpiqué - double layered sown leather Culot - Brass base of the shotgun shell Cuivre - copper Culasse - standing breech or bolt Culasse mobile - movable breech (i.e. on a Darne) Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse)
D
Damasquiné - damascened Dans l'état - original Dans son jus - original, never modified or restored Déboulé (m)? - in the wild? Demi-armé - half cocked (for hammer guns) Demi-bloc - chopper lump Détente - trigger ...Double détente - double trigger ...Monodétente - single trigger ......Monodétente sélective - selective single trigger Devant - forearm . .Devant à pompe - Pump gun forearm D'occasion - used Doré - gold filled Double détente - double trigger Double verrou de fermeture - double locking bolt Douille - Shotshell husk Drageoir---rim cuts. Syn: feuillure.
E
Ébène - ebony Écouvillon - cleaning rod and implement ...Écouvillon en laiton - brass barrel (cleaning) brush Écusson - shield (on a stock) Éjecteurs automatiques - automatic ejectors Éjecteur/extracteur a grand développement - ejector contact point on the hull is over 1/4 of the circumference. Normally high-end guns only. Emouler de Canons de Fusil- Barrel Grinder/Polisher (archaic Enfoncements - dents Entaillage - inletting . . un entaillage droit - straight inletting . . a bascule entaillee - insetted action . . double entaillage - double inletting Épaisseur - thickness Épaisseur des parois du canon - Barrel walls thickness éponge - bore cleaning swab Épreuves - proof ...Banc d’épreuves - proof house ...double épreuve - double proof ...triple épreuve - triple proof ...épreuve ordinaire - version of normal proof ...épreuve ordinaire - modern day "triple proof" Érable - maple (wood) État - condition ...État mécanique - mechanical condition ...État moyen - so so condition; medium condition ...État mauvais - bad condition …Pas en bon état - not in good condition ...État neuf - new condition Étranglement - choke Etui - Gun case; gun slip Express (also double "express") - double rifle Extracteur - extractors
F
Fabricant (also abbreviated as "Fabt") - maker Fausses-platines - side-plates Faux axes de platines - false side-plate pins Faux-corps - false side plates; i.e. contra-platines Fermeture en “T" - Jones underlever also known as "T" Anglais Feu central, arme à - centerfire (gun) Feuillet(s) - sight leaf Feutrine - baize (gun case) Finition - finish …Finition argent - silver finish …Finition blue - blued finish …Finition canon de fusil - gunmetal finish …Finition chromée - chrome finish …Finition nickelée - nickel finish. …Finition noir - blued finish Forage - bore (barrel)(boring) Forgé(e) - forged Foudre(s) - 4 lightening bolts - St Etienne proof mark for guns finished when proofed 1923-39 Fournie - not sure (concentrated perhaps?) Fourreau - Leg-o-mutton case Frères - Brothers Frette - monoblock; Fusil - firearm (normally a shotgun but also a military rifle) ...Fusil à broche - pinfire gun ...Fusil à canon scié - sawed off shotgun ...Fusil à chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader ...Fusil à chien - hammer gun ...Fusil de chasse - shotgun ...Fusil juxtaposé - double gun ... Fusil juxtaposé artisanal Français - Artisanal French double gun (quite often maker not known) ...Fusils lever-action - lever action gun ......Fusil à levier de sous-garde - ditto ......Fusil levier sous garde - ditto ...Fusil à percussion - muzzle loading, percussion rifle ...Fusil à piston - percussion gun ...Fusil à pompe - pump gun (also "branlette" in French hunting vernacular) ...Fusil à silex - flintlock
G
Gachette - sear; trigger Gachette interruptrice - safety sear Gâchette facile - trigger happy Garnisseur - tradesman assembling barrels, ribs and lumps Gerbe - pattern Gerbe de Plombe - shot pattern Graveur - engraver Gravure en pointes d’epinee - thorn point engraving Gravure(s) - engraving(s) Grenadière - sling swivel Grenailles - smaller shot (in a shotgun shell) (4-9) Goupille - round pin Goupille de charnière - hinge pin Guidon - front sight ... protège-guidon - sight hood Guilloché(e) - ornamented with geometric design ...Vis guillochées - ornamented screws
H
Hausse - back sight (originally adjustable type)
I
Illisible - illegible
J
Jaspage - case coloring Jaspé(e) - case colored Jaugé - guage Jaugé à - gauged, measured at Jaugé de chambre - chamber measuring gage Jeu - play (in the sense of movement) ...Jeu dans la bascule - (play in the receiver) ...Sans jeu - without play Joue - cheekpiece ...Joue allemande - German style cheeckpiece Juxtaposé - side by side
L
Laine d’acier - steel wool Laiton - Brass: alloy - 70 parts copper; 30 parts zinc Lefaucheux à clé - type of underlever Levier - Lever Levier d'armement - cocking lever Levier de sécurité (ou sécurité) - safety lever Levier de sécurité (ou sécurité) à la poignée - grip safety Levier de sous garde - cocking underlever (Winchester type) Levier sous la longuesse - underlever Levier à volute - type of underlever Lisse - smooth (as in smoothbore). Also sometimes a syn. for cylinder bore. Longuesse - forestock Longuesse à poussoir - Anson forend (forestock with pushrod release) Longuesse-sous-main amovible - underlever Loupe d’accrochage - doll’s head Lunette - scope
M
Maniable - easy to the hand/handy Moitié armé - half cocked (for hammer guns) Mono-canon - single barrel Monodétente - single trigger Manouvrable - handy Monteur à bois - stocker Moulé(e) - molded Muni - fitted
N
Nickelé(e) - nickel plated Noix - Hammer axis NY d'Imphay? - (some sort of alloy?)
O
Oeilleton - peep sight Or - gold ...Or fin - fine gold Doré - gold plated or gold applique Oreille - Sideclip Organes de visée - sights Orné(e) - ornamented Ouverture par clé devant pontet - underlever Ouverture sous pontet - underlever Oxydation - oxydation
P
Paire - pair of guns Pente - drop ...Pente au busc - drop at comb ...Pente au talon - drop at heel Percussion centrale - center percussion, center fire (hammer gun) Percuteur - Firing pin Pièce d'armurerie - piece of firearms manufacture ??? Pierrage - honing Pique - pitted ...Piqûres - pitting ...Petites piqûres - light pitting Planchette - back sight folding leaf Plaque de couche - butt plate Plaqué(e) - plated Platine - side lock ...Platine Holland - front lock as made by H&H or others ...Platine arrière - back lock ...Platine avant - front lock ...Platine démontable - hand removable sidelock ...Platine encastrée - embedded locks ...Platine rebondissante - rebounding lock Plein--full (as in choke) Plomb - lead (shot) Poids de la détente. - trigger pull Poignée (f) - pistol grip, grip Poinçon - stamp ...Poinçons réglementaires - legal stamps ...Poinçons d'épreuve - proof marks Poire à poudre - powder horn; powder flask Poli(e) - polished Polisseur - barrel grinder Polissage en long - longitudinal honing Poncée huile (Crosse) - sanded with oil finish (stock) Pontet - trigger guard …Pontet-Serpent - type of underlever also called Clé Beringer …Pontet à volute - trigger guard with volute in front Portée - range (as in shooting distance) Poudre - powder (gunpowder) ...Poudre blanche--smokeless powder ...Poudre pyroxylée - smokeless powder (French) ...Poudre sans fumée - smokeless powder ...Poudre Vive - smokeless Powder ( Belgian) Poussoir - push rod (forestock) Propre - clean, nice
Q
Quadrillage - Checkering Quadrilleur - Checkerer Queue d’aronde - dovetail (old French for"swallow tail")
R
Rallonge de crosse - stock extension Rayé à chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader rifle Rayures - striation or shallow rifling Réamorçoir - shotshell priming tool Recuit - annealed Recul - recoil Relevé - cocked Relime - steel parts shaping (by chisel or file) Relime soignee avec filets - double line with breaks (engraving term) Relimeur - tradesman shaping the action and other parts Repoussé en - decoratively hammered Revenu - Tempering Ressort - spring …Ressort à lames - Coil spring …Ressort spirale - spiral spring Restauration - restoration Réticule - Reticle (scope) Rinceaux - leaves and branches (engraving) Rosaces - rosettes (engraving term) Rouille - rust ...Rouille légère - light rust
S
Sabot - butt pad Sabot - sabot projectile Scène de chasse - hunting scene (engraving) Sécurité - safety Sécurité à la poignée - grip safety Sécurité dès qu'elle est arméee - safety automatically on when cocked Serré - tight Sertissage - crimp/crimping SGDG - see Brevete SGDG Similor - alloy; 100 parts Red copper; 12 parts zinc Soudure - solder …Soudure d’argent/à l'argent - Silver solder …Soudure à l’étain - Tin solder (lead and tin mixed) …Soudure de cuivre - Copper brazing (red coper, old silver, antimony, zinc, etc.) Stéphanois - from Saint-Etienne region Successeur (also abbreviated to "succr") - Successor to Souplesse de la gâchette - trigger pull Sûreté - safety
T
"T" Anglais - Jones underlever also known as “Fermeture en T" Talon - heel Talon de crosse - upper point of the butt plate Tempérage - tempering . .Procédé de trempage - tempering process. Tete de Poupée (f) - Doll's Head Tirant de Crosse - Stock attachment bolt Tire-cartouche - extracteur Tirette - action rod Tombac - alloy; 16 parts copper; 1 part zinc; 1 part tin Tonnerre - place where the ignition happens Trempé (past tense from verb Tremper) - quenched - hardened Traité thermiquement - Heat treated Triple verrou Greener - Triple lock of a double Purdey bite and a Greener 3rd Triple verrou Purdey” - Triple lock in case of a Purdey nose 3rd bite. Triple verrou - triple lock Triplette - 3-gun set Tromblon - blunderbuss (or bad shotgun) Tube - barrel tube Type anglais - English style
U Usiné - machined
V
Valise - Case Verrou - lock, also bolt Verrou de fermeture - closing bolt Verrou vertical - rising bite Verrouillage - locking system Vernis - varnish Vis - Screw
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Here is the first cut of English to French double-gun terms. it's easier to go from an acquired language to a native language (in this case French to English) than vise versa. Plus the two languages are structured differently. French is more US Military - think, "trousers, cotton, padded, OD, 1 each" vs "one pair of padded cotton olive drab trousers" so if you have a hard time finding a term, find the noun and it may be a sub entry. And I'm not sure I actually know all the English gun terms the pros use or are interested in. Finally for the French nouns, without the articles it's not real Frenc and for the adjectives - they will vary according the modified noun M or F. So welcome all corrections.
English-French double-gun terms
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Action (receiver) - bascule Action ball (fences) - coquille Action rod - tirette Annealed - Recuit Artisan - artisan Artisanal - artisanal Artisanal French side x side (unnamed) - Fusil juxtaposé artisanal français As is - Dans l'etat
B
Back sight - hausse Barrel(s) - canon(s) …barrel, single - mono-canon …barrel, double/SxS - canons juxtaposés …barrel, externally sleeved - canon frettés …barrel, honed - canon poli …barrel najer - canonnier Barrel assembler - garnisseur Barrel lump - See Lump, Barel …Barrel, rifled barrel - canon rayé …Barrel, rifled, spreader - canon rayé dispersant …barrel set made in one bloc of steel - canon monobloc Barrel blacking - bronzage Barrel wedge/spacer (double guns) - cale Blunderbuss - tromblon Bore - Âme du canon Bore (barrel) - forage Bore brush - Brosse Bore swab - éponge Box lock - Anson et Deeley; Anson Brass - laiton Brazed - brasé ...Brazed on - brasé sur Breakage - brisure, à Breech/bolt - culasse …Breech, movable (Darne) - culasse mobile; Culasse a mouvement linéaire Bronze - bronze Brothers (as in a company) - frères Brush, barrel cleaning, brass - Écouvillon en laiton Bullet - balle ...Jacketed bullet - balle blindée Bullet starter (muzzle loader) - bouchon de canon Butt pad - amortisseur Butt pad - sabot Butt plate - plaque de couche
C
Cape gun - canons mixtes (Arme à) Carbine - carabine Case coloring - jaspage - Case colored - jaspé(e) Case, gun - coffre; feutrine; baize Case - valise Cast - advantage …Cast off - advantage à droite …Cast on - advantage à gauche Cartridge - etui Caliber - calibre Centerfire gun - arme à percution centrale. Chamber - chambre, foudre(s) Chambering - chambrage Checkerer - quadrille Checkering - quadrillage Cheekpiece - joue …German style cheekpiece - joue allemande Chisling - relime Choke - choke; étranglement …cylinder choke - clindrique; lisse …modified choke - demi-choke …full choke - plein Chopper lump - demi-bloc Chrome - chrome Chrome plated - chromé(e) Chrome bores - chromage Clean (state of condition ) - propre Cleaning brush (brass, barrel) - Écouvillon en laiton Cleaning rod - baguette de nettoyage; Cleaning rod and implement - Écouvillon Cocked - armé Cocked - relevé Cocking lever - levier d’armement Coil spring - ressort à lames Comb (for a stock) - busc Condition - état …mechanical condition - état mécanique …new condition - état neuf …so so condition - état moyen …medium condition - état moyen …bad condition - état mauvais …not in good condition Copper - cuivre
D
Damaged (ruined; spoiled) - abîmé(e) Damascened - Damasquiné Dents - enfoncements Deely firearm push button metal piece - capuche Doll's Head - Tete de Poupée (f) Double barrel SxS - Canons juxtaposés Double locking bolt - double verrou de fermeture Double rifle - express; double express Double trigger - see tirgger, double Dovetail - queue d’aronde Drop - pente …drop at comb - pente au busc …drop at heel - pente au talon
E
Ebony - Ébène Ejectors - éjecteurs ,,,automatic ejectors - éjecteurs automatiques Engraver - graveur Engraving - gravure Engraving, (rose) - bouquets (gravure à) Engraving, leaves and branches - rinceaux Engraving, hunting scene - scène de chasse Escutcheon plate - pièce de pouce Extractors - extracteurs; tire-cartouche
F
Fences - coquille; coquilles de la bascule Filing - relime Finish - finition …silver finish - finition argent …blued finish - finition blue …gun metal finish - finition canon de fusil …chrome finish - finition chromée …nickel finish - finition nickelée …blued finish - finition noir Firearm - fusil Firing pin - percuteur Firing pin bushing - bouchon de percuteur Fitted - Muni Flintlock - Fusil à silex Fore-end/stock - devant …Deely pushbutton fore-end - devant à pompe Forestock - longuesse …Anson fore-end - longesse a poussoir …Forestock push rod - poussoir Forged - Forgé(e) Front sight - guidon Front sight hood - protège-guidon
G
Gold - Or …gold filled - Doré Gauge - Jaugé …Chamber gauge - Jaugé de chambre Gauged - Jaugé à Grip - la poignée Grip safety - Sécurité à la poignée (see safety) Gun - fusil …Artisanal French side x side - Fusil juxtaposé Artisanal Français …Flintlock - Fusil à silex …Hammer gun - fusil à Chien …Lever action gun - Fusils lever-action; Fusil à levier de sous-garde; Fusil levier sous garde …Percussion gun - Fusil à percussion; Fusil à piston …Pump gun - Fusil à pompe; branlette …Shotgun - fusil de chasse …Side by side - fusil juxtaposé Gun case - coffre; feutrine; baize; Boîte a fusil Gun maker - arquebusier (abbr: “arqr”) Gun shop - armurerie Gun shop owner - armurier
H
Half-cocked - demi-armé Half-cocked - moitié armé Hammer - chien Hammer axis - noix Hammer, external - chien extérieurs Hammer spur - Crête de chien Hammered (metallurgy) - Creusot? (Coll?) Hand gun - arme de poing Handy (maneuverable) - maniable; manouvrable. Hardened - Trempé (past tense from verb Tremper) Heel - talon Hinge pin - goupille de charnièr Honed barrel - canon poli Honing - pierrage Horn - corne Housing - boitier Hunt/Hunting - Chasse ..Upland woods hunting - Chasse (m) sous Bois Husk (empty shell) - coquille de fusion de chases
I
Illegible = illisible
J
Jacketed (bullet) - blindée (balle blindée) (blindé means "armored")
K
Key - Clé Key, top lever - Clé d’ouverture; Clé sur le dessus
L
Lead - plomb Leather - cuir …double layered sown leather - cuir surpiqué Leg-o-mutton case - Fourreau Length of pull - longueur épaule Lever - levier …cocking lever - levier d’armement …safety lever - levier de sécurité Lever action gun - Fusils lever-action; Fusil à levier de sous-garde; Fusil levier sous garde light/rook rifle - Carabine de jardin Lock (bolt) - verrou …closing lock - verrou de fermature Lock,side - platine …Lock, front (H&H) - platine Holland; plainte avant …Lock, back - plantine arrière …Locks, hand removable side locks - platine démontable …Locks, embedded - platine encastrée Locks, rebounding - plating rebondissante Locking bolt - verrou de fermeture … Double locking bolt - double verrou de fermeture Locking system - verroullage Long gun - Arme d’épaule Lump, barrel - Crochet; Crochets d’attache; crochet de canon Lump, barrel, dovetailed - Crochets ajustés en queue d’aronde Lump, barrel, dovetailed (embedded) - Crochet encastré Lump, non integral - Crochets rapportés
M
Machined - Usiné Maker - Fabricant (Fabt) Maple - bois d’érable; érable Mirror barrel finish - Canons miroir; Canonnerie miroir Molded - moulé(e) Monoblock - frette Muzzle - bouche Muzzle loader - Fusil à chargement par la bouche Muzzle Loading rifle - Rayé à chargement par la bouche
N
New - neuf Nickel plated - nickelé(e)
O
Oak - chêne Old - ancien; vielle Original/never restored - dans son jus, dans l'état Ornamented - orné(e) Ornamented in geometric design - guilloché(e) Ornamented screws - vis guilloché(e) Oxydation - oxydation
P
Pad - Amortisseur Pair (of guns) - paire Patent - brevet Patented - breveté(e) …Model (engineering) patent - breveté(e) SGDG Pattern - Gerbe ...Shot parer - Gerbe de Plombe Peep sight - oeilleton Percussion gun - Fusil à percussion; Fusil à piston Pin (round) - goupille Pin (hinge) - goupille de charnière Pinfire - broche Pinfire gun - fusil à broche Pitted - piqûe Pitting - piqûres …light pitting - petites piqûres Plated - plaqué(e) Play (movement) - jeu …Play in the receiver - jeu dans la bascule …without play - sans jeu Powder measure - Chargette Primer tool - Réamorçoir Proof - Épreuves …Normal proofed - épreuve ordinaire …Double proofed - double épreuve …Triple proofed - triple épreuve …Superior proofed - épreuve ordinaire …Proof house - Banc d’épreuves Proof mark stamps - poinçons d'épreuve Pump gun - Fusil à pompe; branlette
Q
Quenched - Trempé
R
Ramrod - Baguette de nettoyage Receiver (action) - bascule .. .Receiver, round - bascule ronde Regulation - convergence Reloaded shell - cartouche de rechargement Restoration - restauration Reticle (scope) - réticule Rib - Bande ...Rib extension - prolongement de la bande) …Rib, Ventilated - bande ventilée Rifle - Carabine …rifle, indoor - Carabine de salon …rifle, light/rook - Carabine de jardin Rifled barrel - Canon rayé Rifled spreader barrel - Canon rayé dispersant Rifling - rayures Rising bite - verrou vertical Rod, action - tirette Rook/light rifle - Carabine de jardin Round Pin - goupille Rust - rouille …light rust - rouille légère
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With this list one could browse French double gun websites and pretty well understand what is being offered. This one might be the most popular: http://www.naturabuy.fr/Fusils-Juxtaposes-cat-127.htmlIn reading the ads the posters tend to run sentences or phrases together. Have patience. There are some good things there.
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juste un autre Belgique tacot - just another Belgian clunker
cintre mural - wall hanger
"petit chien" - gets you an automatic 2 minute penalty in a hockey game
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I don't know quite how to say it but there is a very important term when it comes to the French and guns...
How do you say "I Surrender" in French ??
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Pretty silly and irrelevant post since we're talking professionally about double guns. Gene Williams
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Recently seen at a gun show. A sign next to a French military rifle, "For Sale, Never Fired, Dropped Only Once".
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Gentlemen congratulations on a fine idea and the collaboration it required.
May I ask if you are open to having a link to it on my website?
Thanks, Pete
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Is that French or a Dialect? Here is what I find... juste un autre Belgique tacot - just another Belgian rattletrap.
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Thank you for the work and assistance for exploring French/Belgian gun websites.
So many are ignorant of the quality of weapons to be found there. The only unfortunate thing is I have yet to see as easy a path to import guns from France as there is for guns from the UK.
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Thank you so much for your efforts.
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So many are ignorant of the quality of weapons to be found there. The only unfortunate thing is I have yet to see as easy a path to import guns from France as there is for guns from the UK.
It's not bad at all- just comes down to who ya know. Two guns and two sets of barrels so far, and ain't done yet. Oh and Argo, don't tell anyone about that auction site or how magnificent the French and their guns really are: let the detractors muse about their myths. Mike
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Pete...link away...that's why we put it here. We'll be adding to it.
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Merci, mes amis.
Just a possible addition. Having dealt relatively recently with the St. Etienne proof house, believe you need to note two terms: "epreuve ordinaire" which is self-explanatory, and "epreuve superieur" which seems to have replaced triple proof.
Best, Tim
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Thanks Tim - I've added the two. I read these gun ads regularly and always find variants. I'll change, replace, add, au fur et mesure.
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This is a keeper, those of you who have contributed to this post are to be saluted for your hard work.
There is some real quality in the guns from France that goes largely unappreciated in this country
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This thread needs to be in the FAQ section. There should also be similar threads for German and other language's gun terms.
Regards Ken
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As an enthusiast of French double guns I really appreciate this thread and the work people here have put into it. Thank you!
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Pete...link away...that's why we put it here. We'll be adding to it. OK, I have started working on it. It will take me a few hours. My site is hosted by Yahoo. Got an email informing me that they have sold off that part of the business. Unfortunately, they promoted their own product called "Site Builder". Well nothing understands Site Builder. I am going to convert the site to Word Press in the next few weeks. The site is not that busy, only about 26,000 hits a year. The great majority are coming from search engines. So a lot of curious folks out there. I am sure your translations will attract a few more. Pete
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We do need to straighten out the canons frettes definition. It's one of those that requires more than a couple words. "Sleeved" doesn't really do it, as we understand "sleeved" in English--which is cutting off old barrels and fitting new ones into the chambers. "Canons frettes" can also refer to the original barrels, as in the design of perhaps the single most popular French shotgun of all time: the Manufrance Robust.
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Thanks for the information Gene. I assume you mean ellenbr (Raimey), not "Elenorbm", when you are giving credit to contributors to this list. I find it simply amazing though, that Gladys Kravitz, I mean old colonel, and wannago-whining have not jumped in to criticize off-topic thread diversions like this: I don't know quite how to say it but there is a very important term when it comes to the French and guns...
How do you say "I Surrender" in French ?? Or, for that matter, off topic thread diversions like this: Recently seen at a gun show. A sign next to a French military rifle, "For Sale, Never Fired, Dropped Only Once". Even this wasn't enough to stop Bob after the first offense: Pretty silly and irrelevant post since we're talking professionally about double guns. Gene Williams And still nothing from the self-appointed thread moderator Gladys??? Hmmmmmm. One can't help but wonder whether there is some hypocrisy and selective civility going on here... maybe some more proof that Gladys and wannago-whining & Co. were actually more intent upon enabling and protecting anti-2nd Amendment trolls like King Brown in their very recent personal attack threads??? Also, it wasn't very refined, civil, and mannerly to perpetuate the idea that the French are cowards. A better example of spineless cowardice would be to mock Replacement, who contributed to the recent personal attack threads by attempting to drag my daughters into it: I can't wait until someone mentions Keith's daughters I know, I'm not supposed to notice or mention these things. Nor am I supposed to mention, their collaborative effort (I'm not supposed to know that... let the PM's begin again!). That entire off topic thread personal attack thread was deleted by Dave, but the hypocrisy lingers like the stench from a fresh turd. Kind Regards, Selby Lowndes
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Larry, good question. Here is French wikipedia's explanation which I think solves the problem - it should be translated as "externally sleeved or jacketed, built-up barrels" or some such? Canon frettCanon de marine BL de 16 pouces Mk I, dont on peut apercevoir une partie de la frette cot culasse
Tube frett
Comparaison entre un tube en une pice et un tube frett Un tube de canon frett est compos de plusieurs lments, contrairement un tube forg ou fondu en une pice. Les frettes sont des anneaux poss sur le tube d'un canon pour le renforcer. Le frettage ralise une compression du tube central et la mise sous tension du tube extrieur.Comparison between a tube in one piece and a tube frette. A cannon tube frette is composed of several elements, in contrast to a tube forged or foundered in one piece. The Frette are rings put on a barrel tube in order to reinforce it. The frettage creates a compression of the central tube and puts the exterior of the tube under tension. Le frettage du tube consiste le renforcer contre la pression intrieure quil subira au dpart du coup. En principe, le ou les frettages, des anneaux, sont poss chaud. tant donn que leur diamtre froid est lgrement plus petit que le diamtre extrieur du tube central, elles crent, en refroidissant, une prcontrainte de compression qui rduira d'autant leffet de lextension du tube au dpart du coup. Vu cette prcontrainte du mtal, on obtient une rpartition plus gale des sollicitations dans lensemble tube et frette, ce qui permet une conomie de poids par rapport un tube en acier massif pouvant rsister au mme choc d laugmentation foudroyante de la pression.The frettage of a tube consists of reinforcing it against interior pressure to which it is subjected in firing. In principle, the frettage(s), the ring(s), are emplaced when they are hot. Their diameters when cold are slightly smaller than the exterior diameter of the central tube, creating, upon cooling a precondition compression which reduces the effects of the expansion of the tube upon firing. Because of this pre constraining of the metal, one can obtain a more even distribution in the tube and frette together which permits an economy of weight when compared to a tube from a steel billet, which can resist the same shock due to the sudden increase in pressure. Pour des pices dartillerie de petites dimensions et avec le perfectionnement de lusinage pour des pices plus grosses, il est devenu possible de remplacer les frettes de faible longueur par des frettes en une pice, appeles jaquettes ou manchons. Un avantage de ces jaquettes consiste dans le fait que le tube extrieur massif pour effet de rduire les vibrations de lensemble au dpart du coup.For artillery pieces of small dimensions and with the prefectioning of its use for larger pieces, it became possible to replace frettes of smaller lengths by frettes in one piece, called "Jackets" or "sleeves". An advantage of these jackets consisted of the fact that the massive exterior of the tube can reduce the vibrations of the whole upon firing. Here is the "frette" or external sleeve on a Manufrance:
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Apologies to any who found my attempts at humor distracting or offensive.
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Shelby...good Southern name by the way....my mother's family lived in Lowndes County Alabama for 150 years... I suspect this gun vocabulary thread will become a standard reference document for many here and abroad once google starts popping it up. I just haven't been able to find another similar list anywhere. Bob's "jokes" were neither original nor funny, and will be seen by the people accessing the list for the next 10 years as at best ill-mannered.
As for your personal beef with others on the board, perhaps it's time to let things go and practice forgiveness. It is Sunday. We are all Americans.
And I've been meaning to ask you what sort of grease I could put on the hinge of my St. Etienne 12 bore to help it loosen up a bit more. (and I was referring to Raimey and have fixed the user name...thanks).
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For those interested...here is a pretty good French guy's site I just found with firearms (in general) technical terms in five languages, English, French, German, Italian and Spanish. I think our list of French terms as related to double guns is more complete but this should be an excellent reference tool as well. http://www.frfrogspad.com/intrglos.htm
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Merci beaucoup! Gotta add this page to favorites
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Dear authors, may I ask your permission to copy your dictionary to my blog, with proper credit to all the authors?
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By all means please copy and/or link - the list is there to be used. By the way I continue to update the list as I find new terminology and refine others.
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I've added the following terms to the list; please correct as need be and I'll change them
Baguette de nettoyage - ramrod, cleaning rod Bouchon de canon - bullet starter Bronze - bronze; copper and tin alloy Canon de fusil a lme raye - rifled barrel Chrom - chrome plated Cuivre - copper Dor - repouss en Ecouvillon - brush Ecouvillon en laiton - brass barrel (cleaning) brush maill - Finition - finish Finition argent - silver finish Finition blue - blued finish Finition canon de fusil - gunmetal finish Finition chrom - chrome finish Finition nickele - nickel finish. Finition noir - blued finish Fusil canon sci - sawed off shotgun Laine dacier - steel wool Laiton - Brass: alloy - 70 parts copper; 30 parts zinc Mono-canon - single barrel Nickele - nickel plated Orne - ornamented Plaque - plated Poire poudre - powder horn; powder flask Poli - polished repouss en Restauration - restoration Similor - alloy; 100 parts Red copper; 12 parts zinc Soudure - solder Soudure dargentan/argent - Silver solder Soudure a ltain - Tin solder (lead and tin mixed) Soudure de cuivre - Copper solder used in the highest end guns (red coper, old silver, antimony, zinc, etc.) Tombac - alloy; 16 parts copper; 1 part zinc; 1 part tin
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Argo, added accents, fixed grammatical errors and added quite a few ones including tradesmen. There are a few questionable entries WC-
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Abm(e) - spoiled/ruined/damaged Acier - steel Acier chocolat - excessively soft steel (Belgian trade vernacular) Acier damas (also "damas") - damascus steel Acier revenu - tempered steel Acier tremp - quenched steel Argent - silver ...vieil argent - old silver Ailes - side clips me du canon - bore Amortisseur - pad (as in buttpad) Ancien - old Anson et Deeley; Anson- box lock Arabesque - Scroll (engraving) Arme de poing - hand gun Arme dpaule - long gun Armurier - gun shop owner Armurerie - gun shop, not a maker, historically a body armor vendor Arquebusier - Gun maker (abbreviated as "Arqr") Artisan - artisan Avantage ( droite, gauche) - cast-off, cast-on
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Baguette de nettoyage - ramrod, cleaning rod Banc dpreuves - proof house Bande - rib ...Prolongement de la bande - extension of the rib (to the receiver) ...Bande ventile - ventilated rib Balle - bullet or slug Bascule - receiver/action Bascule ronde - round receiver Basculeur - tradesman putting the action together Bille acier - steel shot Bois - wood ...Bois de noyer - walnut ......Noyer blond - blond walnut ...Bois d'rable - maple Boitier - housing Bouche - muzzle Bouchon de canon - bullet starter (muzzle loader) Bouchon de percuteur - Firing pin bushing Bouquets (gravure ) - rose engraving Bourre - wad Bras - brazed ...bras sur - brazed on Bretelle - sling ...Bretelle enrouleur - retractable sling (like on a Ideal) ...Brettelle retractable - retractable (built in) sling Brevet - Patent Brevet(e) - patented ...Brevet(e) SGDG - model patent ("sans garantie du gouvernement")- low grade, easy to obtain patent Brisure, - Breakage Broche - pinfire Bronze - bronze; (copper and tin alloy) Bronzage - barrel blacking Busc - comb (for a stock)
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Cale - wedge (in a double rifle), or spacer between barrels Calibre - caliber Canon - barrel ...Canons fretts - sleeved barrel set (externally sleeved or jacketed, built-up barrels) ...Canons juxtaposs - SxS double barrel ...Canon lisse - smoothbore ...Canons miroir - mirror finish bores ......Canonnerie miroir - ditto ...Canons mixtes (Arme ) - cape gun ...Canon monobloc - Barrel set made in one block of steel ...Canon poli - honed barrel ...Canon ray - rifled barrel ...Canon ray dispersant -Rifled spreader barrel (usually Euro woodcock guns) ...Canons superposs - over/under Canonnier - barrel maker Capuche - metal piece surrounding the Deeley forearm push button Carabine - rifle, carbine Carabine de salon - indoor rifle Carabine de jardin - light rifle, rook rifle Cartouches plombs - shot shell Cartouches balle - slug shell Chambrage - chamber(ing) Chambre - chamber Chien - hammer Crte de chien - hammer spur Chiens extrieurs - external hammers Choke - Choke Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse) ... Demi choke - Modified choke ... Plein-full (as in choke Chne - Oak Chrom(e) - chrome plated Cl - key Cl douverture - top lever key Cl sur le dessus - top lever key Coffret - case (to put the gun in) Contre-platines - false side-plates Convergence - regulation (shotgun or double rifle) Coquille - action ball; Shell (as as in sea-shell) ...Coquille de fusil de chasse - empty shotgun shell casing; Husk WC: Never heard or seen that one Corne - horn Cran de scurit - Safety catch Crte de chien - hammer spur Crochet - barrel lump ...Crochets dattache - barrel lump ...Crochets ajusts en queue daronde - dovetailed lump ...Crochet du canon - same ...Crochet encastr - dovetailed lump (embedded) ...Crochets rapports - non integral lumps Crosse - stock ...Crosse anglaise - English stock ...Crosse joue - stock with cheek piece ...Crosse de borgne - crossover stock ...Crosse demi-pistolet - round knob grip stock ...Crosse pistolet - pistol grip stock Crossier - stock maker Cuir - leather (for the sling) ...Cuir surpiqu - double layered sown leather Cuivre - copper Culasse - standing breech or bolt Culasse mobile - movable breech (i.e. on a Darne) Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse)
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Damasquin - damascened dans son jus - original, never modified or restored Demi-coquelle - half cock (for hammer guns) (???WC) Demi-bloc - chopper lump Dtente - trigger ...Double dtente - double trigger ...Monodtente - single trigger ......Monodtente slective - selective single trigger Devant - forend Devant pompe - Deeley pushbutton forearm D'occasion - used Dor - gold filled repouss en ??? Double dtente - double trigger double verrou de fermeture - double locking bolt
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bne - ebony couvillon - cleaning rod and implement ...couvillon en laiton - brass barrel (cleaning) brush cusson - shield (on a stock) jecteurs automatiques - automatic ejectors enfoncements - dents preuves - proof ...Banc dpreuves - proof house ...double preuve - double proof ...triple preuve - triple proof ...preuve ordinaire - version of normal proof ...preuve suprieure - modern day "triple proof" rable - maple (wood) tat - condition ...tat mcanique - mechanical condition ...tat moyen - so so condition; medium condition ...tat mauvais - bad condition Pas en bon tat - not in good condition ...tat neuf - new condition tranglement - choke Etui - Gun case; gun slip Express (also double "express") - double rifle Extracteur - extractors
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Fabricant (also abbreviated as "Fabt") - maker Fausses-platines - false side-plates Feu central, arme - centerfire (gun) Feuillet(s) - sight leaf Feutrine - baize (gun case) Fermeture en "T" - Jones underlever Finition - finish Finition argent - silver finish Finition blue - blued finish Finition canon de fusil - gunmetal finish Finition chrome - chrome finish Finition nickele - nickel finish. Finition noir - blued finish Forage - bore (barrel) Frres - Brothers Frette - monoblock; Fusil - firearm (normally a shotgun but also a military rifle) ...Fusil broche - pinfire gun ...Fusil canon sci - sawed off shotgun ...Fusil chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader ...Fusil Chien - hammer gun ...Fusil de chasse - shotgun ...Fusil juxtapos - double gun ... Fusil juxtapos Artisanal Franais - Artisanal French double gun (quite often maker not known) ...Fusils lever-action - lever action gun ......Fusil levier de sous-garde - ditto ......Fusil levier sous garde - ditto ...Fusil percussion - muzzle loading, percussion rifle ...Fusil piston - percussion gun ...Fusil pompe - pump gun (also "branlette" in French hunting vernacular) ...Fusil silex - flintlock
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Gachette - sear Gachette interruptrice - safety sear Garnisseur - tradesman assembling barrels, ribs and lumps Graveur - engraver Gravure(s) - engraving(s) Grenadire - sling swivel Goupille - round pin Goupille de charnire - hinge pin Guidon - front sight ... protge-guidon - sight hood Guilloch(e) - ornamented with geometric design ...Vis guilloches - ornamented screws
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Hausse - back sight (originally adjustable type)
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Illisible - illegible
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Jaspage - case coloring Jasp(e) - case colored ...Jaug - gauged/regauged to (chambers enlarged to)??? Jeu - play (in the sense of movement) ...Jeu dans la bascule - (play in the receiver) ...sans jeu - without play Joue - cheekpiece ...Joue allemande - German style cheeckpiece Juxtapos - side by side
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Laine dacier - steel wool Laiton - Brass: alloy - 70 parts copper; 30 parts zinc Levier - Lever Levier de scurit (ou scurit) - safety lever Longuesse - forestock Longuesse poussoir - Anson forend (forestock with pushrod release) Lunette - scope
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Maniable - easy to the hand/handy Mono-canon - single barrel Monodtente - single trigger Monteur bois - stocker Moul(e) - molded
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Nickel(e) - nickel plated Noix - Hammer axis
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Oeilleton - peep sight Or - gold ...Or fin - fine gold dor - gold plated or gold applique Oreille - Sideclip Organes de vise - sights Orn(e) - ornamented Oxydation - oxydation
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Paire - pair of guns Pente - drop ...Pente au busc - drop at comb ...Pente au talon - drop at heel Percussion centrale - center percussion, center fire (hammer gun) Percuteur - Firing pin Pice d'armurerie - piece of firearms manufacture ??? Pierrage - honing Pique - pitted ...Piqres - pitting ...Petites piqres - light pitting Planchette - back sight folding leaf Plaque de couche - butt plate Plaqu(e) - plated Platine - side lock ...Platine Holland - front lock as made by H&H or others ...Platine arrire - back lock ...Platine avant - front lock ...Platine dmontable - hand removable sidelock ...Platine encastre - embedded locks ...Platine rebondissante - rebounding lock Plein--full (as in choke) Plomb - lead (shot) Poinon - stamp ...Poinons rglementaires - legal stamps ...Poinons d'preuve - proof marks Poire poudre - powder horn; powder flask Poli(e) - polished polissage en long - longitudinal honing Ponce huile (Crosse) - sanded with oil finish (stock) Pontet - trigger guard Pontet volute - trigger guard with volute in front Porte - range (as in shooting distance) Poudre - powder (gunpowder) ...Poudre blanche--smokeless powder ...Poudre pyroxyle - smokeless powder (French) ...Poudre sans fume - smokeless powder ...Poudre Vive - smokeless Powder ( Belgian) Poussoir - push rod (forestock) propre - clean, nice
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Quadrillage - Checkering Quadrilleur - Checkerer Queue daronde - dovetail (old French for"swallow tail" which is more accurate than dove tail, actually)
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Rallonge de crosse - stock extension Ray chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader rifle Rayures - scratches or rifling Relime - steel parts shaping (by chisel or file) Relimeur - tradesman shaping the action and other parts Ressort - spring Ressort boudin - Coil spring Restauration - restoration Rticule - Reticle (scope) Rinceaux - leaves and branches (engraving) Rouille - rust ...Rouille lgre - light rust
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Sabot - butt pad Sabot - sabot projectile Scne de chasse - hunting scene (engraving) Scurit - safety Scurit ds qu'elle est armee - safety automatically on when cocked Serr - tight Similor - alloy; 100 parts Red copper; 12 parts zinc Soudure - solder Soudure dargent/ l'argent - Silver solder Soudure ltain - Tin solder (lead and tin mixed) Soudure de cuivre - Copper brazing (red coper, old silver, antimony, zinc, etc.) Stphanois - from Saint-Etienne region Successeur (also abbreviated to "succr") - Successor to Sret - safety
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Talon - heel Tire-cartouche - extracteur Tirette - action rod Tombac - alloy; 16 parts copper; 1 part zinc; 1 part tin Tonnerre - place where the ignition happen Triplette - 3-gun set Tromblon - blunderbuss (or bad shotgun) Tube - barrel tube Type anglais - English style
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Valise - Case Verrou - lock, also bolt Verrou de fermeture - closing bolt Verrou vertical - rising bite Verrouillage - locking system Vernis - varnish Vis - Screw
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Capital effort on all fronts. I would say that under the term Arquebusier, that the acronym Arq-er, or whatever the most used stamp might be, needs to be associated.
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Another item too in crossing over to the German vernacular with respect to the actual making of the sporting arm, is that the term tradesman would equate to mechanic, of which both designate the effort of the craftsman.
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A few terms the Galloping Bovine's(WC) has dropped from time to time:
pierrage=honing
crochets rapportes= non-integral lumps
successeur = successor to
There are some odd advertising found on Belgian made wares that were for a Germanic target group that I'd like to add. I'll keep going thru the list.
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My memory was faulty & the Belgian advertising is in German:
Amtlich Vierfach Geprft und Eingeschossen mit Strkster ladung Rauchlosen Pulvers
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Many thanks & how 'bout Frres & SGDG - - Sans Garantie du Gouvernement( 'brevets sont dlivrs sans examen pralable, aux risques et prils des demandeurs, et sans garantie soit de la ralit, de la nouveaut ou du mrite de linvention, soit de la fidlit ou de lexactitude de la description.)???
Shaping up to be a smashing effort & something upon which can be built.
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was doing it while you were typing.
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Reading my mind or like minds???
CHARGE D'EPREUVE FUSIL FINI
CHARGE NORMALE
CANON FRETTE FABRICATION MECANIQUE
CHOKE PERFECTIONNE
Work in progress......
WC, how do the following terms vary:
Bovin Sauvage
Vache Sauvage
Btail Sauvage
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Will do for some of them when I get back in town. The problem is that some of those are marketing based and not widely used. I would vote against adding them in. Ditto for the trademarks, different list. As for as my alias, it is American by nature (name of my property) and I will not translate it. I think we forgot "levier d'armement" e.g. cocking lever. M-
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Sure, regarding the current list, would it be proper to take the translated values and add them together into a sentence?? These are the bulk of the type marks one is going to encounter in inspecting(smoking over) a French longarm, and I use the term loosely. So there is value in knowing what the phrases represent even if it is just advertising.
No, not prying into the skeletons in your closet, or to your origins as a spook or in the witness relocation program, but the terms all seem to denote Wild Cattle. So how do the terms compare across the board?
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WC, re the three question marks in your corrections on the list: Coquille de fusil de chasse: As far as I can tell it does mean Shotgun shell husk. Here is an example of a reloading site (cartouche de rechargement). Welcome correction again. https://fr.dreamstime.com/photo-stock-ca...e-image58620260There are a number of sites advertising using the brass of a Coquille de fusil de chasse for bracelets...or using the plastic with candles in them to achieve a lighted party venue. Jaug - gauged/regauged to (chambers enlarged to)??? Here was the sentence from the ad on Naturabuy: "Chambr 65 mais jaug 70. Mcanisme parfaitement fonctionnel, verrouillage ferme. Gravures dcoratives et reste de jaspage." I've found plenty of "Jaug 7.62mm" etc,...which seems to indicate "gauged at" and have found a "Jaug de chambre" which apparently is a chamber gauge. I think that ad means that the chamber is labeled 65 but a gauge showed it was 70. This needs to be changed....welcome a suggestion. "Guaged at" or "measured at" perhaps? Demi-coquelle - half cock. I only found this reference once in an ad. I have seen " moiti arm" and " demi-arm"...refering to the half position of the hammer on a single action firearm hammer gun which prevents the trigger from being pulled - sort of a safety for hammer guns. Perhaps we ought to add the two above phrases moiti arm" and " demi-arm and delete Demi-coquelle Also might add these two: Relev - cocked Arm - cocked Also what does this mean? " Longuesse-Sous- main" amovible -- underlever? in another day or two I'll super copy your list/changes/additions onto the list on the first page....making it easier to navigate to our final dictionary.
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Re Acier Diamant, etc....here is the VC catalog explaining their metallurgy.....those terms look to be proprietary, not generic:
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I'd vote against the "advertising" terms because they don't have a consistent meaning. "Acier diamant", for example, means different things to different makers. Usually, I think, an attempt to assign superior quality . . . or at least better quality steel than for an entry-level gun. But note that for V-C in the above catalog page, "acier diamant" isn't the same depending on the type of barrel in question.
A couple more terms: Chevrotines--buckshot. Chromage--chromed bores.
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Super copied WC's corrected copy to the first page - Added the suggestions also. I disagreed a bit with SGDG and have added clarifications.
I've been reading texts on barrel maker's techniques and other gun manufacturing processes...there are tons of interesting technical terms but no sense in adding them since we're unlikely to run across them unless we get into metallurgy or old plating techniques etc.
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Oh mate, thanks for your support! That was verry usefull info! since i'm going to France I'm looking for such information. also am searching for French terminology on https://pharmacyreviews.md about drugs and pharmacy as well. these are some important things for me now.
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I've run across this term a number of times: "LES COQUILLES DE LA BASCULE" (SONT GRAVEES DE FEUILLES DE VIGNE EN FOND CREUX). No doubt Coquilles de la Bascule are the Fences. Added to the first page. If proven erroneous, will change. Thanks.
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I have not had a lot of time to improve the list, but I already had "coquilles" as fences. I most doubt that the other use is Ok. The normal word for it (the shotshell brass) is "culot". Best regards, WC-
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Here are three terms from ads that seem to best be translated as "underlever.." Would like to know what the jury thinks before adding them:
Ouverture par cl devant pontet Longuesse-Sous- main amovible Levier sous la longuesse
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I'm interested in a French 16 ga Saint-Etienne Fusil de chasse which mentions "dolls-head". Ok, I know what this is in English but what is "doll's head" in French?.. - Do we have this in our list? Should we create an English-French equivilent?
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Here's a few more I found in an old Raimey post:
Emouler de Canons de Fusil- Barrel Grinder
Polirer- Barrel Polisher
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Argo, I'll look it up in my MF catalog. I can't recall right now. Ken, it would be "emouleur" (with an accent) and that word is VERY old. "polisseur" would be accurate. Thanks WC-
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Well, MF was using at least between 1900 and 1930: "bande a tenon d'accrochage s'encastrant dans la bascule" or also "loupe d'accrochage etc." "Loupe" (magnifier) makes sense as it describes the shape of the doll's head as seen from the top. "Tenon" would make sense for a Greener type, but was used either way.
This is quite a mouthful. I'll have to look at other catalogues. The Belgians have something different more than likely. WC-
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In most cases, people use: "triple verrou Greener" in the case of a double Purdey bite and a Greener 3rd, and "triple Verrou Purdey" in case of a Purdey nose 3rd bite. "triple verrou" would cover all other mechanisms. "quadruple verrou" is a more complicated system such as on the Ideal.
The simple doll's head is quite unusual actually.
Another word or expression is: "jecteur/extracteur a grand dveloppement" meaning that the ejector contact point on the hull is over 1/4 of the circumference. Normally found on high-end guns only.
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Agree with WC on "polisseur" for barrel polisher . . . although I've never seen it used in relation to guns.
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Humm...I'll supercopy good firm definitions into the master list on page one. And I'm currently compiling an English-French version of it. But we'll need some good hard definitions to make it work.
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Pictures are worth a thousand words: Or check out this: manufrance_fusil_justapos_robust.pdf
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Interesting that while we both refer to the heel of the stock, they use "beak" where we use toe.
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Argo, I've just come across "extrieur bronzage attenu l'endroit du pouce".
Pretty sure it has something to do with pushrod ejector but neither google translate nor myself can make actual sense of it. The "bronzage" is throwing me.
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I'll take a stab at it and say, "case coloring eroded where the thumb rests..."
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Tim, I was wondering about something like that but in another part of the description he uses the term "jaspage".
So unless it's some linguistic oddity, if he used jaspage elsewhere, wouldn't he have used it in this case?
Whether I get it or not won't be the difference in buying or not buying the gun but I have been using this glossary of French terms and it has made things soooooooo much better. Google translate and my own school boy French is no match for the esoteric terms contained within double gun descriptions in French adverts.
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"extrieur bronzage attenu l'endroit du pouce"
Canvasback, "bronzage" is barrel bluing/blacking....I think the ad is saying the bluing is eroded where the thumb touches it. Wonder if the guy had his front hand thumb on a hot barrel? Or whether it was his rear hand thumb in contact with the receiver somehow? Alternatively, "pouce" also means "inch." Curious...WC?
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Helpful hint: If you're at a loss for the name of some obscure part, to bring up schematics of particular French guns, google search "fusil de chasse schema" and click on image.
I'm going to post the following additions to the master list per the above suggestions if there are no objections:
Amorce - primer Bande a tenon d'accrochage s'encastrant dans la bascule - dolls head Band de visee - ventilated rib Bec de Crosse - heel of the butt plate Chevrotines - buck shot (large shot 2 - 000) Cl Beringer - type of underlever also called Pontet-Serpent Cl de bascule - top lever key Culot - Brass base of the shotgun shell jecteur/extracteur a grand dveloppement - ejector contact point on the hull is over 1/4 of the circumference. Normally high-end guns only. Emouler de Canons de Fusil- Barrel Grinder/Polisher (archaic) tui - shell, cartridge Grenailles - smaller shot (in a shotgun shell) (4-9) Lefaucheux cl - type of underlever Levier volute - type of underlever Talon de crosse - upper point of the butt plate loupe daccrochage - dolls head Poignee - pistol grip polisseur - Barrel polisher Pontet-Serpent - type of underlever also called Cl Beringer Tirant de Crosse - Stock attachment bolt triple verrou Greener - a double Purdey bite and a Greener 3rd triple Verrou Purdey - a Purdey nose 3rd bite.
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Labour of love indeed. What about the term "square shot"? Do not the French peddle a good deal of that?
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Darn it, first page is now locked; can't make anymore changes/additions unless I can get Dave to unlock it for editing.
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Ah, just grab it & make a new post:
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Abm(e) - spoiled/ruined/damaged Acier - steel Acier chocolat - excessively soft steel (Belgian trade vernacular) Acier damas (also "damas") - damascus steel Acier revenu - tempered steel Acier tremp - quenched steel Argent - silver ...vieil argent - old silver Ailes - side clips me du canon - bore Amortisseur - pad (as in buttpad) Ancien - old Anson et Deeley; Anson- box lock Arabesque - Scroll (engraving) Arme de poing - hand gun Arme dpaule - long gun Arm - cocked Armurier - gun shop owner Armurerie - gun shop, not a maker, historically a body armor vendor Arquebusier - Gun maker (abbreviated as "Arqr") Artisan - artisan Avantage ( droite, gauche) - cast-off, cast-on
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Baguette de nettoyage - ramrod, cleaning rod Banc dpreuves - proof house Bande - rib ...Prolongement de la bande - extension of the rib (to the receiver) ...Bande ventile - ventilated rib Balle - bullet or slug Bascule - receiver/action Bascule ronde - round receiver Basculeur - tradesman putting the action together Bille acier - steel shot Bois - wood ...Bois de noyer - walnut ......Noyer blond - blond walnut ...Bois d'rable - maple Boitier - housing Bouche - muzzle Bouchon de canon - bullet starter (muzzle loader) Bouchon de percuteur - Firing pin bushing Bouquets (gravure ) - rose engraving Bourre - wad Bras - brazed ...bras sur - brazed on Bretelle - sling ...Bretelle enrouleur - retractable sling (like on a Ideal) ...Brettelle retractable - retractable (built in) sling Brevet - Patent Brevet(e) - patented ...Brevet(e) SGDG - model patent ("sans garantie du gouvernement")- Patented Without Guarentee of the Government". French distinction that designates a technical patent in the U.S. sense, as opposed to trademark and the old design patent number system that dealt only with name and shape. Brisure, - Breakage Broche - pinfire Bronze - bronze; (copper and tin alloy) Bronzage - barrel blacking Busc - comb (for a stock)
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Cale - wedge (in a double rifle), or spacer between barrels Calibre - caliber Canon - barrel ...Canons fretts - sleeved barrel set (externally sleeved or jacketed, built-up barrels) ...Canons juxtaposs - SxS double barrel ...Canon lisse - smoothbore ...Canons miroir - mirror finish bores ......Canonnerie miroir - ditto ...Canons mixtes (Arme ) - cape gun ...Canon monobloc - Barrel set made in one block of steel ...Canon poli - honed barrel ...Canon ray - rifled barrel ...Canon ray dispersant -Rifled spreader barrel (usually Euro woodcock guns) ...Canons superposs - over/under Canonnier - barrel maker Capuche - metal piece surrounding the Deeley forearm push button Carabine - rifle, carbine Carabine de salon - indoor rifle Carabine de jardin - light rifle, rook rifle Cartouches plombs - shot shell Cartouches balle - slug shell Cartouche de rechargement - reloader Chambrage - chamber(ing) Chambre - chamber Chien - hammer Crte de chien - hammer spur Chevrotines - buckshot. Chiens extrieurs - external hammers Choke - Choke Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse) ... Demi choke - Modified choke ... Plein-full (as in choke Chne - Oak Chromage - chromed bores Chrom(e) - chrome plated Cl - key Cl douverture - top lever key Cl sur le dessus - top lever key Coffret - case (to put the gun in) Contre-platines - false side-plates Convergence - regulation (shotgun or double rifle) Coquille - action ball (fences) ...Coquilles de la Bascul - fences Coquille de fusil de chasse - empty shotgun shell casing; Husk or Hull Corne - horn Cran de scurit - Safety catch Crte de chien - hammer spur Crochet - barrel lump ...Crochets dattache - barrel lump ...Crochets ajusts en queue daronde - dovetailed lump ...Crochet du canon - same ...Crochet encastr - dovetailed lump (embedded) ...Crochets rapports - non integral lumps Crosse - stock ...Crosse anglaise - English stock ...Crosse joue - stock with cheek piece ...Crosse de borgne - crossover stock ...Crosse demi-pistolet - round knob grip stock ...Crosse pistolet - pistol grip stock Crossier - stock maker Cuir - leather (for the sling) ...Cuir surpiqu - double layered sown leather Cuivre - copper Culasse - standing breech or bolt Culasse mobile - movable breech (i.e. on a Darne) Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse)
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Damasquin - damascened dans son jus - original, never modified or restored Demi-arm - half cocked (for hammer guns) Demi-bloc - chopper lump Dtente - trigger ...Double dtente - double trigger ...Monodtente - single trigger ......Monodtente slective - selective single trigger Devant - forend Devant pompe - Deeley pushbutton forearm D'occasion - used Dor - gold filled repouss en ??? Double dtente - double trigger double verrou de fermeture - double locking bolt
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bne - ebony couvillon - cleaning rod and implement ...couvillon en laiton - brass barrel (cleaning) brush cusson - shield (on a stock) jecteurs automatiques - automatic ejectors enfoncements - dents preuves - proof ...Banc dpreuves - proof house ...double preuve - double proof ...triple preuve - triple proof ...preuve ordinaire - version of normal proof ...preuve suprieure - modern day "triple proof" rable - maple (wood) tat - condition ...tat mcanique - mechanical condition ...tat moyen - so so condition; medium condition ...tat mauvais - bad condition Pas en bon tat - not in good condition ...tat neuf - new condition tranglement - choke Etui - Gun case; gun slip Express (also double "express") - double rifle Extracteur - extractors
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Fabricant (also abbreviated as "Fabt") - maker Fausses-platines - false side-plates Feu central, arme - centerfire (gun) Feuillet(s) - sight leaf Feutrine - baize (gun case) Fermeture en "T" - Jones underlever Finition - finish Finition argent - silver finish Finition blue - blued finish Finition canon de fusil - gunmetal finish Finition chrome - chrome finish Finition nickele - nickel finish. Finition noir - blued finish Forage - bore (barrel) Frres - Brothers Frette - monoblock; Fusil - firearm (normally a shotgun but also a military rifle) ...Fusil broche - pinfire gun ...Fusil canon sci - sawed off shotgun ...Fusil chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader ...Fusil Chien - hammer gun ...Fusil de chasse - shotgun ...Fusil juxtapos - double gun ... Fusil juxtapos Artisanal Franais - Artisanal French double gun (quite often maker not known) ...Fusils lever-action - lever action gun ......Fusil levier de sous-garde - ditto ......Fusil levier sous garde - ditto ...Fusil percussion - muzzle loading, percussion rifle ...Fusil piston - percussion gun ...Fusil pompe - pump gun (also "branlette" in French hunting vernacular) ...Fusil silex - flintlock
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Gachette - sear Gachette interruptrice - safety sear Garnisseur - tradesman assembling barrels, ribs and lumps Graveur - engraver Gravure(s) - engraving(s) Grenadire - sling swivel Goupille - round pin Goupille de charnire - hinge pin Guidon - front sight ... protge-guidon - sight hood Guilloch(e) - ornamented with geometric design ...Vis guilloches - ornamented screws
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Hausse - back sight (originally adjustable type)
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Illisible - illegible
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Jaspage - case coloring Jasp(e) - case colored Jaug - guage Jaug - gauged, measured at Jaug de chambre - chamber measuring gage Jeu - play (in the sense of movement) ...Jeu dans la bascule - (play in the receiver) ...sans jeu - without play Joue - cheekpiece ...Joue allemande - German style cheeckpiece Juxtapos - side by side
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Laine dacier - steel wool Laiton - Brass: alloy - 70 parts copper; 30 parts zinc Levier - Lever levier d'armement - cocking lever Levier de scurit (ou scurit) - safety lever Levier sous la longuesse - underlever Longuesse - forestock Longuesse poussoir - Anson forend (forestock with pushrod release) Longuesse-sous- main amovible - underlever Lunette - scope
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Maniable - easy to the hand/handy Moiti arm - half cocked (for hammer guns) Mono-canon - single barrel Monodtente - single trigger Monteur bois - stocker Moul(e) - molded
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Nickel(e) - nickel plated Noix - Hammer axis
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Oeilleton - peep sight Or - gold ...Or fin - fine gold dor - gold plated or gold applique Oreille - Sideclip Organes de vise - sights Orn(e) - ornamented Ouverture par cl devant pontet - underlever Oxydation - oxydation
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Paire - pair of guns Pente - drop ...Pente au busc - drop at comb ...Pente au talon - drop at heel Percussion centrale - center percussion, center fire (hammer gun) Percuteur - Firing pin Pice d'armurerie - piece of firearms manufacture ??? Pierrage - honing Pique - pitted ...Piqres - pitting ...Petites piqres - light pitting Planchette - back sight folding leaf Plaque de couche - butt plate Plaqu(e) - plated Platine - side lock ...Platine Holland - front lock as made by H&H or others ...Platine arrire - back lock ...Platine avant - front lock ...Platine dmontable - hand removable sidelock ...Platine encastre - embedded locks ...Platine rebondissante - rebounding lock Plein--full (as in choke) Plomb - lead (shot) Poinon - stamp ...Poinons rglementaires - legal stamps ...Poinons d'preuve - proof marks Poire poudre - powder horn; powder flask Poli(e) - polished polissage en long - longitudinal honing Ponce huile (Crosse) - sanded with oil finish (stock) Pontet - trigger guard Pontet volute - trigger guard with volute in front Porte - range (as in shooting distance) Poudre - powder (gunpowder) ...Poudre blanche--smokeless powder ...Poudre pyroxyle - smokeless powder (French) ...Poudre sans fume - smokeless powder ...Poudre Vive - smokeless Powder ( Belgian) Poussoir - push rod (forestock) propre - clean, nice
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Quadrillage - Checkering Quadrilleur - Checkerer Queue daronde - dovetail (old French for"swallow tail" which is more accurate than dove tail, actually)
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Rallonge de crosse - stock extension Ray chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader rifle Rayures - scratches or rifling Relev - cocked Relime - steel parts shaping (by chisel or file) Relimeur - tradesman shaping the action and other parts Ressort - spring Ressort boudin - Coil spring Restauration - restoration Rticule - Reticle (scope) Rinceaux - leaves and branches (engraving) Rouille - rust ...Rouille lgre - light rust
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Sabot - butt pad Sabot - sabot projectile Scne de chasse - hunting scene (engraving) Scurit - safety Scurit ds qu'elle est armee - safety automatically on when cocked Serr - tight SGDG - see Brevete SGDG Similor - alloy; 100 parts Red copper; 12 parts zinc Soudure - solder Soudure dargent/ l'argent - Silver solder Soudure ltain - Tin solder (lead and tin mixed) Soudure de cuivre - Copper brazing (red coper, old silver, antimony, zinc, etc.) Stphanois - from Saint-Etienne region Successeur (also abbreviated to "succr") - Successor to Sret - safety
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Talon - heel Tire-cartouche - extracteur Tirette - action rod Tombac - alloy; 16 parts copper; 1 part zinc; 1 part tin Tonnerre - place where the ignition happen Triplette - 3-gun set Tromblon - blunderbuss (or bad shotgun) Tube - barrel tube Type anglais - English style
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Valise - Case Verrou - lock, also bolt Verrou de fermeture - closing bolt Verrou vertical - rising bite Verrouillage - locking system Vernis - varnish Vis - Screw
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I hope when this list is finished someone lists and alphabetizes the list for English terms, since the list appears to be intended for English speakers.
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I may take a crack at that over the next few days.....
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English-French version is en train and should be finished this week. I'll post it and an updated French-English version in a new line.
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Here is the first cut of English to French double-gun terms. it's easier to go from an acquired language to a native language (in this case French to English) than vise versa. Plus the two languages are structured differently. French is more US Military - think, "trousers, cotton, padded, OD, 1 each" vs "one pair of padded cotton olive drab trousers" so if you have a hard time finding a term, find the noun and it may be a sub entry. And I'm not sure I actually know all the English gun terms the pros use or are interested in. Finally for the French nouns, without the articles it's not real French. So welcome all corrections.
English-French double-gun terms
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Action (receiver) - bascule Action ball (fences) - coquille Action rod - tirette Artisan - artisan Artisanal - artisanal Artisanal French side x side (unnamed) - Fusil juxtapos artisanal franais As is - Dans l'etat
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Back sight - hausse Barrel(s) - canon(s) barrel, single - mono-canon barrel, double/SxS - canons juxtaposs barrel, externally sleeved - canon fretts barrel, honed - canon poli barrel najer - canonnier Barrel assembler - garnisseur Barrel lump - See Lump, Barel Barrel, rifled barrel - canon ray Barrel, rifled, spreader - canon ray dispersant barrel set made in one bloc of steel - canon monobloc Barrel blacking - bronzage Barrel wedge/spacer (double guns) - cale Blunderbuss - tromblon Bore - me du canon Bore (barrel) - forage Box lock - Anson et Deeley; Anson Brass - laiton Brazed - bras ...Brazed on - bras sur Breakage - brisure, Breech/bolt - culasse Breech, movable (Darne) - culasse mobile; Culasse a mouvement linaire Bronze - bronze Brothers (as in a company) - frres Brush, barrel cleaning, brass - couvillon en laiton Bullet - balle ...Jacketed bullet - balle blinde Bullet starter (muzzle loader) - bouchon de canon Butt pad - amortisseur Butt pad - sabot Butt plate - plaque de couche
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Cape gun - canons mixtes (Arme ) Carbine - carabine Case coloring - jaspage - Case colored - jasp(e) Case, gun - coffre; feutrine; baize Case - valise Cast - advantage Cast off - advantage droite Cast on - advantage gauche Cartridge - etui Caliber - calibre Centerfire gun - arme percution centrale. Chamber - chambre Chambering - chambrage Checkerer - quadrille Checkering - quadrillage Cheekpiece - joue German style cheekpiece - joue allemande Chisling - relime Choke - choke; tranglement cylinder choke - clindrique; lisse modified choke - demi-choke full choke - plein Chopper lump - demi-bloc Chrome - chrome Chrome plated - chrom(e) Chrome bores - chromage Clean (state of condition ) - propre Cleaning brush (brass, barrel) - couvillon en laiton Cleaning rod - baguette de nettoyage; Cleaning rod and implement - couvillon Cocked - arm Cocked - relev Cocking lever - levier darmement Coil spring - ressort lames Comb (for a stock) - busc Condition - tat mechanical condition - tat mcanique new condition - tat neuf so so condition - tat moyen medium condition - tat moyen bad condition - tat mauvais not in good condition Copper - cuivre
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Damaged (ruined; spoiled) - abm(e) Damascened - Damasquin Dents - enfoncements Deely firearm push button metal piece - capuche Double barrel SxS - Canons juxtaposs Double locking bolt - double verrou de fermeture Double rifle - express; double express Double trigger - see tirgger, double Dovetail - queue daronde Drop - pente drop at comb - pente au busc drop at heel - pente au talon
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Ebony - bne Ejectors - jecteurs ,,,automatic ejectors - jecteurs automatiques Engraver - graveur Engraving - gravure Engraving, (rose) - bouquets (gravure ) Engraving, leaves and branches - rinceaux Engraving, hunting scene - scne de chasse Escutcheon plate - pice de pouce Extractors - extracteurs; tire-cartouche
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Fences - coquille; coquilles de la bascule Filing - relime Finish - finition silver finish - finition argent blued finish - finition blue gun metal finish - finition canon de fusil chrome finish - finition chrome nickel finish - finition nickele blued finish - finition noir Firearm - fusil Firing pin - percuteur Firing pin bushing - bouchon de percuteur Flintlock - Fusil silex Fore-end/stock - devant Deely pushbutton fore-end - devant pompe Forestock - longuesse Anson fore-end - longesse a poussoir Forestock push rod - poussoir Front sight - guidon Front sight hood - protge-guidon
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Gold - Or gold filled - Dor Gauge - Jaug Chamber gauge - Jaug de chambre Gauged - Jaug Gun - fusil Artisanal French side x side - Fusil juxtapos Artisanal Franais Flintlock - Fusil silex Hammer gun - fusil Chien Lever action gun - Fusils lever-action; Fusil levier de sous-garde; Fusil levier sous garde Percussion gun - Fusil percussion; Fusil piston Pump gun - Fusil pompe; branlette Shotgun - fusil de chasse Side by side - fusil juxtapos Gun case - coffre; feutrine; baize Gun maker - arquebusier (abbr: arqr) Gun shop - armurerie Gun shop owner - armurier
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Half-cocked - demi-arm Half-cocked - moiti arm Hammer - chien Hammer axis - noix Hammer, external - chien extrieurs Hammer spur - Crte de chien Hand gun - arme de poing Handy (maneuverable) - maniable; manouvrable. Heel - talon Hinge pin - goupille de charnir Honed barrel - canon poli Honing - pierrage Horn - corne Housing - boitier Husk (empty shell) - coquille de fusion de chases
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Illegible = illisible
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Jacketed (bullet) - blinde (balle blinde) (blind means "armored")
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Key - Cl Key, top lever - Cl douverture; Cl sur le dessus
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Lead - plomb Leather - cuir double layered sown leather - cuir surpiqu Length of pull - longueur paule Lever - levier cocking lever - levier darmement safety lever - levier de scurit Lever action gun - Fusils lever-action; Fusil levier de sous-garde; Fusil levier sous garde light/rook rifle - Carabine de jardin Lock (bolt) - verrou closing lock - verrou de fermature Lock,side - platine Lock, front (H&H) - platine Holland; plainte avant Lock, back - plantine arrire Locks, hand removable side locks - platine dmontable Locks, embedded - platine encastre Locks, rebounding - plating rebondissante Locking bolt - verrou de fermeture Double locking bolt - double verrou de fermeture Locking system - verroullage Long gun - Arme dpaule Lump, barrel - Crochet; Crochets dattache; crochet de canon Lump, barrel, dovetailed - Crochets ajusts en queue daronde Lump, barrel, dovetailed (embedded) - Crochet encastr Lump, non integral - Crochets rapports
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Maker - Fabricant (Fabt) Maple - bois drable; rable Mirror barrel finish - Canons miroir; Canonnerie miroir Molded - moul(e) Monoblock - frette Muzzle - bouche Muzzle loader - Fusil chargement par la bouche Muzzle Loading rifle - Ray chargement par la bouche
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New - neuf Nickel plated - nickel(e)
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Oak - chne Old - ancien; vielle Original/never restored - dans son jus Ornamented - orn(e) Ornamented in geometric design - guilloch(e) Ornamented screws - vis guilloch(e) Oxydation - oxydation
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Pad - Amortisseur Pair (of guns) - paire Patent - brevet Patented - brevet(e) Model (engineering) patent - brevet(e) SGDG Peep sight - oeilleton Percussion gun - Fusil percussion; Fusil piston Pin (round) - goupille Pin (hinge) - goupille de charnire Pinfire - broche Pinfire gun - fusil broche Pitted - piqe Pitting - piqres light pitting - petites piqres Plated - plaqu(e Play (movement) - jeu Play in the receiver - jeu dans la bascule without play - sans jeu Proof - preuves Normal proofed - preuve ordinaire Double proofed - double preuve Triple proofed - triple preuve Superior proofed - preuve ordinaire Proof house - Banc dpreuves Proof mark stamps - poinons d'preuve Pump gun - Fusil pompe; branlette
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Ramrod - Baguette de nettoyage Receiver (action) - bascule .. .Receiver, round - bascule ronde Regulation - convergence Reloaded shell - cartouche de rechargement Restoration - restauration Reticle (scope) - rticule Rib - Bande ...Rib extension - prolongement de la bande) Rib, Ventilated - bande ventile Rifle - Carabine rifle, indoor - Carabine de salon rifle, light/rook - Carabine de jardin Rifled barrel - Canon ray Rifled spreader barrel - Canon ray dispersant Rifling - rayures Rising bite - verrou vertical Rod, action - tirette Rook/light rifle - Carabine de jardin Round Pin - goupille Rust - rouille light rust - rouille lgre
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Safety - scurit; sret automatic safety - scurit ds qu'elle est armee Safety catch - Cran de scurit Safety lever - levier de scurit Safety sear - Gachette interruptrice Saint-Etienne citizen - Stephanois Scope - lunette Scratches - rayures Screw - vis Scroll engraving - Arabesque Sear - gchette Safety sear - gchette interruptrice Shell - Catouche; Etui shot shell - Cartouches plombs slug shell - Cartouches balle Shot - bille shot (small) - grenailles (4-9) shot, buck - chevrotines (2 - 000) Steel shot - bille acre Shotgun - fusil de chasse sawed off shotgun - Fusil canon sci Side by side / SxS - Canons juxtaposs Side clips - Ailes Side lock - platine Font lock (H&H) - platine Holland; plainte avant Back lock - plantine arrire hand removable side locks - platine dmontable Embedded locks - platine encastre rebounding locks - platine rebondissante Side plates (false) - contre-platines; fausse-platines Sights - organes de vise front sight - guidon back sight - hausse back sight folding leaf - planchette peep sight - oeilleton Sight leaf - feuillet(s) Silver - Argent Old silver - vieil argent Sleeve (external) - frette Sling - bretelle Retractable sling - bretelle enrouleur; brettelle retractable Sling swivel - grenadire Slug - balle Smoothbore - Canon lisse Solder - soudure silver solder - soudure dargent/ l'argent tin solder - soudure ltain coper brazing - soudure de cuivre Spring - ressort coil spring - ressort lames ...Spiral spring - ressort spirale. Stamp (embossed) - poinon legal stamps - poinons rglementaires proof mark stamps - poinons d'preuve Standing breech/bolt - culasse Steel - Acier Damascus steel - Acier damas ou damas Quenched steel - Acier tremp Soft steel - Acier chocolat Tempered steel - Acier revenu Steel Shot - bille acier Steel wool - Laine dicier Stock - crosse English stock - crosse anglaise Stock with cheek piece - crosse joue Crossover stock - crosse de boring Round knob grip stock - crosse pistoles Stock shield - cusson Stock extension - rallonge de crosse Stock maker - crossier; monteur a bois Swallowtail - queue daronde SxS/double barrel - Canons juxtaposs
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Tight - serr Trigger - Dtente; gchette (Coll). double trigger - Double dtente single trigger - Monodtente selective single trigger - Monodtente slective Trigger pull - souplesse de la gchette; poids de la dtente Tube - tube
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Underlever - Lefaucheux cl; Cl Beringer; Cl sous pontet Cle longueur Levier volute; Levier sous la longuesse Longuesse-sous- main amovible Ouverture par cl devant pontet Ouverture sous pontet Pontet-Serpent; Jones underlever - Fermeture en "T" Used - Doccasion
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Varnish - vernis Ventilated rib - bande ventile
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Wad - bourre Walnut - bois de noyer ...Blond walnut - noyer blond Wood - bois
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Well Argo, first of all let me tell you that you did a hell of a job here. I live in Belgium in the Dutch speaking part but I speak also fluent French. I will wait your final version that you gona post and if I have some comments I will try to help you. For the moment, if I was in your place at the translation of BREECH, movable (Darne)- Culasse mobile . And just because you mention Darne this is more correct " Culasse a mouvement linaire". Cheers, greetings from Belgium, Marc.
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Marc, Merci et dank je. I've added the alternative to "Breech" above. I lived for three years in Brussels in the 1980's - my youngest son was born in Ixelles, Brussels almost on the same day as the Belgian national day. Gene
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Great work, Argo! I need to take time to go through the whole list carefully. Just a couple quick ones:
blond walnut would be noyer blond (masculine noun) Technically, gachette (which has a circumflex) does mean sear, but it seems to be used quite often (maybe slang?) to mean trigger.
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On French news tonight, the news reporter from Jerusalem used "gchette" to describe the hair trigger situation. It may be used more often to refer to devices which have a trigger which are not firearms there are definitely gun references too.
appuyez sur la gchette - pull the trigger (get started) un dispositif gchette - trigger mechanism gchette facile - trigger happy souplesse de la gchette - trigger pull ...but also poids de la dtente. - trigger pull
Added in the English-French section.
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Gene, I have read your compleet translation and maybe it is good to change the following : centerfire gun= arme percution centrale. Coil spring = ressort lames (not ressort a bodin) and also mention, spiral spring= ressort spirale. Handy = manouvrable. Side plates= the only correct translation is Fausses- platines or contre- platines. J'espre que vous me pardonnerez ces amliorations. Greetings from Belgium. BTW I write also many faults in English. Marc.
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Merci, corrections added. I'll need to repost the original French list from the first page in order to add a few more words found in gun ads on Naturabuy.com.
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There are about 10 words/phrases for "underlever" in French, several referring to specific types. I'll post pictures of each as I run across them in French ads - worth a 1000 words: Lefaucheux cl; Levier volute; Cl Beringer (aka pontet serpent); Cl sous pontet (identical to Cl Beringer/ Pontet-Serpent?) Cle longueur (barrels folds all the way down to latch onto the lower stock) Pontet-Serpent (see Cl Beringer); Cl devant pontet (identical to Lefraucheux?) Longuesse-Sous- main amovible Levier sous la longuesse Ouverture sous pontet (variant of Levier de sous garde?) Levier de sous garde Jones underlever - Fermeture en "T"; "T" Anglais
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Hello Argo, Waiting for the pics, but: "levier" or "cl" is normally the opening lever. Pontet is fixed (trigger guard) and normally cannot be moved unless it is also the lever (e.g. like in some Purdey rifles or Win rifles). "Pontet volute" does exist, but it is fixed, and not a mean of opening. There should not be a "pontet serpent" but a "cl/levier serpent". "Serpent" is of course "snake" and a perfect example would be a Grant side lever.
Ads are often whimsical and/or misinformed in descriptions, so should not be used as a 100% valid source of info (nobody is perfect). Even catalogs are rife with misuse of words (but certainly better than private ads). Best are old reference books from the 19th early 20th century, such as the one from Lebeau-Courally or Nouvelle etc. Best regards, Martin
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I've been using jpgbox.com since photo bucket pulled the plug. jpgbox looks to have gone belly up for the last two days. discouraging. I'll try imgur.com net.
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WC, jpgbox is back up and photos are posted. Let me know what you think. Still working on other photos.
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I've seen either B. (Balle) Blinde or B. (Balle) Plomb stamped on Leige, Belgium proofed double rifle barrels to indicate they are rifled barrels suitable for jacketed or lead bullets.
It also appears that the word bullet is derived from the French word boulette which roughly means small ball.
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Argo, Will do in a few days. Am swamped now. All the best, WC-
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Keith, I'll repost the French-English definitive list at some point and add these. thanks. A lot of English military terminology comes from French (thank William the Conquerer and Napoleon)
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"blind" = armored. (probably "jacketed?"); "plumb" of course Is lead (added to the English-French above)
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Also WC, perhaps you can help. Serr means "tightened," "squeezed," "compressed," etc. We have it defined as "tight" above. But it appears on barrels regularly as on the 16ga o/u previously posted here. http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=464151 I speculated that it might mean "compression tested for PT" or something like that...but what does it mean in a gun context?
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Argo, because of the angle of the photo, I can't tell whether that's PT or FT. Almost looks more like FT to me. (For that matter, are we sure that the last letter is a T? Doesn't look like the T's in St.Etienne below.) And what's the M doing in front of Serre? Given the "a St Etienne" below, it would seem likely to have something to do with who made or sold the gun in St. Etienne. But it does not make sense as a name, although M is the common abbreviation for Monsieur. But that isn't something you see on guns, and what follows still doesn't make sense. Yet another of those mysteries, I think.
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This is a Mr Serre Ft (Fabricant=maker) in St Etienne, e.g. a last name. 15 rue Chapelon in the early 1930s. WC- P.S> still swamped :-(
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Thanks, WC. That looks like the answer to what's on the barrels.
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WC, I liked SMP16ga's o/u and at the time did some research on the retailer Roturier, Ste. Foy la Grande. http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=452969He sent me a PM saying he has not corresponded with Ste. Foy la Grand but has had it checked out and is shooting it. I'll post your find on his line if you don't mind....more history for his gun. The 1930's date for the gun maker pretty well aligns with the conclusion we came up with re the font used for Roturier on the gun and on his pre-WWII shop. So presumably Heurtier made the barrels; M. Serre put the gun together, Roturier sold it...as complete a history of a 1930's St. Etienne gun as one could come up with. (is there a name for Swampcattle? - Bovine de la Marais or something?)
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Here's something I can't find on the list....barrel wall thickness.
Anyone got any idea how to say that in French?
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paisseur de la paroi du canon - I think this might work; I saw it somewhere recently-naturabuy.Fr maybe.: edit: Also found these: -- paisseur du tube - (from passionlachasse.fr_ -- paisseur des parois -- paisseur des parois du canon - would of course be plural - i.e. thickness of the walls of the barrel. More technical: EPREUVE INDIVIDUELLE DES ARMES CARACTERISTIQUES DES MATERIAUX ET EPAISSEURS DES PAROIS DU CANON ET DE LA CHAMBRE DES ARMES A FEU PORTATIVES - RECOMMANDATION (COMPTES RENDUS XVII ET XXIII) http://www.cip-bobp.org/sites/default/files/CIP-Epreuve-FR.pdf
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In the next few days, I'm going to repost both the French-English and English-French lists on this board with the additions we've left out to consolidate them. If anyone has more items to add, post them here or send them to me. Once they are reposted...we'll have about a month to edit them before they're locked again. Gene
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Updated repost including terms left out of the first page post
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Abm(e) - spoiled/ruined/damaged Acier - steel Acier chocolat - excessively soft steel (Belgian trade vernacular) Acier damas (also "damas") - damascus steel Acier revenu - tempered steel Acier tremp - quenched steel Argent - silver ...vieil argent - old silver Ailes - side clips me du canon - bore Amorce - primer Amortisseur - pad (as in buttpad) Ancien - old Anson et Deeley; Anson- box lock Arabesque - Scroll (engraving) Arme de poing - hand gun Arme dpaule - long gun arme percution centrale - centerfire gun Arm - cocked Armurier - gun shop owner Armurerie - gun shop, not a maker, historically a body armor vendor Arquebusier - Gun maker (abbreviated as "Arqr") Artisan - artisan Avantage ( droite, gauche) - cast-off, cast-on
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Baguette de nettoyage - ramrod, cleaning rod Banc dpreuves - proof house Bande - rib ...Prolongement de la bande - extension of the rib (to the receiver) ...Bande ventile - ventilated rib Bande a tenon d'accrochage s'encastrant dans la bascule - dolls head Band de visee - ventilated rib Balle - bullet or slug Bascule - receiver/action Bascule ronde - round receiver Basculeur - tradesman putting the action together Bec - heel Bec de Crosse - heel of the butt plate Bille acier - steel shot Bois - wood ...Bois de noyer - walnut ......Noyer blond - blond walnut ...Bois d'rable - maple Boitier - housing Bouche - muzzle Bouchon de canon - bullet starter (muzzle loader) Bouchon de percuteur - Firing pin bushing Bouquets (gravure ) - rose engraving Bourre - wad Bras - brazed ...bras sur - brazed on Bretelle - sling ...Bretelle enrouleur - retractable sling (like on a Ideal) ...Brettelle retractable - retractable (built in) sling Brevet - Patent Brevet(e) - patented ...Brevet(e) SGDG - model patent ("sans garantie du gouvernement")- Patented Without Guarentee of the Government". French distinction that designates a technical patent in the U.S. sense, as opposed to trademark and the old design patent number system that dealt only with name and shape. Brisure, - Breakage Broche - pinfire Bronze - bronze; (copper and tin alloy) Bronzage - barrel blacking Busc - comb (for a stock)
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Cale - wedge (in a double rifle), or spacer between barrels Calibre - caliber Canon - barrel ...Canons fretts - sleeved barrel set (externally sleeved or jacketed, built-up barrels) ...Canons juxtaposs - SxS double barrel ...Canon lisse - smoothbore ...Canons miroir - mirror finish bores ......Canonnerie miroir - ditto ...Canons mixtes (Arme ) - cape gun ...Canon monobloc - Barrel set made in one block of steel ...Canon poli - honed barrel ...Canon ray - rifled barrel ...Canon ray dispersant -Rifled spreader barrel (usually Euro woodcock guns) ...Canons superposs - over/under Canonnier - barrel maker Capuche - metal piece surrounding the Deeley forearm push button Carabine - rifle, carbine Carabine de salon - indoor rifle Carabine de jardin - light rifle, rook rifle Cartouches plombs - shot shell Cartouches balle - slug shell Cartouche de rechargement - reloader Chambrage - chamber(ing) Chambre - chamber Chevrotines - buck shot (large shot 2 - 000) Chien - hammer Crte de chien - hammer spur Chevrotines - buckshot. Chiens extrieurs - external hammers Choke - Choke Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse) ... Demi choke - Modified choke ... Plein-full (as in choke Chne - Oak Chromage - chromed bores Chrom(e) - chrome plated Cl - key Cl Beringer - type of underlever also called Pontet-Serpent Cl de bascule - top lever key Cl devant pontet - underlever (Lefraucheux). Cl douverture - opening key Cl longueur - side lever Cl sur le dessus - top lever key Coffret - case (to put the gun in) Contre-platines - side-plates Convergence - regulation (shotgun or double rifle) Coquille - action ball (fences) ...Coquilles de la Bascul - fences Coquille de fusil de chasse - empty shotgun shell casing; Husk or Hull Corne - horn Cran de scurit - Safety catch Crte de chien - hammer spur Crochet - barrel lump ...Crochets dattache - barrel lump ...Crochets ajusts en queue daronde - dovetailed lump ...Crochet du canon - same ...Crochet encastr - dovetailed lump (embedded) ...Crochets rapports - non integral lumps Crosse - stock ...Crosse anglaise - English stock ...Crosse joue - stock with cheek piece ...Crosse de borgne - crossover stock ...Crosse demi-pistolet - round knob grip stock ...Crosse pistolet - pistol grip stock Crossier - stock maker Cuir - leather (for the sling) ...Cuir surpiqu - double layered sown leather Culot - Brass base of the shotgun shell Cuivre - copper Culasse - standing breech or bolt Culasse mobile - movable breech (i.e. on a Darne) Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse)
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Damasquin - damascened dans son jus - original, never modified or restored Demi-arm - half cocked (for hammer guns) Demi-bloc - chopper lump Dtente - trigger ...Double dtente - double trigger ...Monodtente - single trigger ......Monodtente slective - selective single trigger Devant - foreend Devant pompe - Deeley pushbutton forearm D'occasion - used Dor - gold filled repouss en ??? Double dtente - double trigger double verrou de fermeture - double locking bolt
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bne - ebony couvillon - cleaning rod and implement ...couvillon en laiton - brass barrel (cleaning) brush cusson - shield (on a stock) jecteurs automatiques - automatic ejectors jecteur/extracteur a grand dveloppement - ejector contact point on the hull is over 1/4 of the circumference. Normally high-end guns only. Emouler de Canons de Fusil- Barrel Grinder/Polisher (archaic) tui - shell, cartridge enfoncements - dents paisseur - thickness paisseur des parois du canon - Barrel walls thickness preuves - proof ...Banc dpreuves - proof house ...double preuve - double proof ...triple preuve - triple proof ...preuve ordinaire - version of normal proof ...preuve ordinaire - modern day "triple proof" rable - maple (wood) tat - condition ...tat mcanique - mechanical condition ...tat moyen - so so condition; medium condition ...tat mauvais - bad condition Pas en bon tat - not in good condition ...tat neuf - new condition tranglement - choke Etui - Gun case; gun slip Express (also double "express") - double rifle Extracteur - extractors
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Fabricant (also abbreviated as "Fabt") - maker Fausses-platines - side-plates Fermeture en T" - Jones underlever also known as "T" Anglais Feu central, arme - centerfire (gun) Feuillet(s) - sight leaf Feutrine - baize (gun case) Finition - finish Finition argent - silver finish Finition blue - blued finish Finition canon de fusil - gunmetal finish Finition chrome - chrome finish Finition nickele - nickel finish. Finition noir - blued finish Forage - bore (barrel) Frres - Brothers Frette - monoblock; Fusil - firearm (normally a shotgun but also a military rifle) ...Fusil broche - pinfire gun ...Fusil canon sci - sawed off shotgun ...Fusil chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader ...Fusil Chien - hammer gun ...Fusil de chasse - shotgun ...Fusil juxtapos - double gun ... Fusil juxtapos Artisanal Franais - Artisanal French double gun (quite often maker not known) ...Fusils lever-action - lever action gun ......Fusil levier de sous-garde - ditto ......Fusil levier sous garde - ditto ...Fusil percussion - muzzle loading, percussion rifle ...Fusil piston - percussion gun ...Fusil pompe - pump gun (also "branlette" in French hunting vernacular) ...Fusil silex - flintlock
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Gachette - sear; trigger Gachette interruptrice - safety sear gchette facile - trigger happy Garnisseur - tradesman assembling barrels, ribs and lumps Graveur - engraver Gravure(s) - engraving(s) Grenadire - sling swivel Grenailles - smaller shot (in a shotgun shell) (4-9) Goupille - round pin Goupille de charnire - hinge pin Guidon - front sight ... protge-guidon - sight hood Guilloch(e) - ornamented with geometric design ...Vis guilloches - ornamented screws
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Hausse - back sight (originally adjustable type)
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Jaspage - case coloring Jasp(e) - case colored Jaug - guage Jaug - gauged, measured at Jaug de chambre - chamber measuring gage Jeu - play (in the sense of movement) ...Jeu dans la bascule - (play in the receiver) ...sans jeu - without play Joue - cheekpiece ...Joue allemande - German style cheeckpiece Juxtapos - side by side
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Laine dacier - steel wool Laiton - Brass: alloy - 70 parts copper; 30 parts zinc Lefaucheux cl - type of underlever Levier - Lever levier d'armement - cocking lever Levier de scurit (ou scurit) - safety lever Levier de sous garde - cocking underlever (Winchester type) Levier sous la longuesse - underlever Levier volute - type of underlever Longuesse - forestock Longuesse poussoir - Anson forend (forestock with pushrod release) Longuesse-sous-main amovible - underlever loupe daccrochage - dolls head Lunette - scope
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Maniable - easy to the hand/handy Moiti arm - half cocked (for hammer guns) Mono-canon - single barrel Monodtente - single trigger manouvrable - handy Monteur bois - stocker Moul(e) - molded
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Nickel(e) - nickel plated Noix - Hammer axis
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Oeilleton - peep sight Or - gold ...Or fin - fine gold dor - gold plated or gold applique Oreille - Sideclip Organes de vise - sights Orn(e) - ornamented Ouverture par cl devant pontet - underlever Ouverture sous pontet - underlever Oxydation - oxydation
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Paire - pair of guns Pente - drop ...Pente au busc - drop at comb ...Pente au talon - drop at heel Percussion centrale - center percussion, center fire (hammer gun) Percuteur - Firing pin Pice d'armurerie - piece of firearms manufacture ??? Pierrage - honing Pique - pitted ...Piqres - pitting ...Petites piqres - light pitting Planchette - back sight folding leaf Plaque de couche - butt plate Plaqu(e) - plated Platine - side lock ...Platine Holland - front lock as made by H&H or others ...Platine arrire - back lock ...Platine avant - front lock ...Platine dmontable - hand removable sidelock ...Platine encastre - embedded locks ...Platine rebondissante - rebounding lock Plein--full (as in choke) Plomb - lead (shot) poids de la dtente. - trigger pull Poignee - pistol grip Poinon - stamp ...Poinons rglementaires - legal stamps ...Poinons d'preuve - proof marks Poire poudre - powder horn; powder flask Poli(e) - polished polisseur - barrel grinder polissage en long - longitudinal honing Ponce huile (Crosse) - sanded with oil finish (stock) Pontet - trigger guard Pontet-Serpent - type of underlever also called Cl Beringer Pontet volute - trigger guard with volute in front Porte - range (as in shooting distance) Poudre - powder (gunpowder) ...Poudre blanche--smokeless powder ...Poudre pyroxyle - smokeless powder (French) ...Poudre sans fume - smokeless powder ...Poudre Vive - smokeless Powder ( Belgian) Poussoir - push rod (forestock) propre - clean, nice
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Quadrillage - Checkering Quadrilleur - Checkerer Queue daronde - dovetail (old French for"swallow tail" which is more accurate than dove tail, actually)
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Rallonge de crosse - stock extension Ray chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader rifle Rayures - scratches or rifling Relev - cocked Relime - steel parts shaping (by chisel or file) Relimeur - tradesman shaping the action and other parts Ressort - spring Ressort lames - Coil spring ressort spirale - spiral spring Restauration - restoration Rticule - Reticle (scope) Rinceaux - leaves and branches (engraving) Rouille - rust ...Rouille lgre - light rust
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Sabot - butt pad Sabot - sabot projectile Scne de chasse - hunting scene (engraving) Scurit - safety Scurit ds qu'elle est armee - safety automatically on when cocked Serr - tight SGDG - see Brevete SGDG Similor - alloy; 100 parts Red copper; 12 parts zinc Soudure - solder Soudure dargent/ l'argent - Silver solder Soudure ltain - Tin solder (lead and tin mixed) Soudure de cuivre - Copper brazing (red coper, old silver, antimony, zinc, etc.) Stphanois - from Saint-Etienne region Successeur (also abbreviated to "succr") - Successor to souplesse de la gchette - trigger pull Sret - safety
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"T" Anglais - Jones underlever also known as Fermeture en T" Talon - heel Talon de crosse - upper point of the butt plate Tirant de Crosse - Stock attachment bolt Tire-cartouche - extracteur Tirette - action rod Tombac - alloy; 16 parts copper; 1 part zinc; 1 part tin Tonnerre - place where the ignition happen triple verrou Greener - Triple lock of a double Purdey bite and a Greener 3rd Triple Verrou Purdey - Triplel lock in case of a Purdey nose 3rd bite. Triple verrou - triple lock Triplette - 3-gun set Tromblon - blunderbuss (or bad shotgun) Tube - barrel tube Type anglais - English style
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Valise - Case Verrou - lock, also bolt Verrou de fermeture - closing bolt Verrou vertical - rising bite Verrouillage - locking system Vernis - varnish Vis - Screw
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Boudrole: A term for the cylinder of steel in a Greener Crossbolt?
Boudrole - Petit cylindre travers d une tige quadrangulaire pour fermeture de fusils triple verrous systme Greiner. Arme de luxe.
https://books.google.com/books?id=cqHYAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA179&lpg=PA179&dq=Triple+Verrou++Fermeture+Syst%C3%A8me+Fermeture+Li%C3%A8geoise&source=bl&ots=FQFg6GnEs9&sig=ACfU3U1G0Zq_h67kgidRnpupwjH305D_lw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwim4eXU8v7oAhXjdN8KHZ93ACYQ6AEwCnoECAoQAQ#v=onepage&q=Triple%20Verrou%20%20Fermeture%20Syst%C3%A8me%20Fermeture%20Li%C3%A8geoise&f=false
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Good one Raimey. I need to update that list and in particular add the "m" or "f" to the nouns. Will work on it during the shutdown. I assume "boudrole" is feminine - "une boudrole?"
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Argo, you well know but I was chasing >>Galand Nose<< or Fermeture Ligeoise to differentiate it from the >>Purdey Nose<<(Triple(Verrou) Fermeture Systme Purdey??).
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>>Bulletin de la Socit ligeoise de littrature wallonne<<
That above link was noted as the Walloon dialect from 1894, if anyone is interested.
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Sort of in the same vein, can a Sidelock shotgun be equipped with a Greener Crossbolt/Boudrole? Or are they commonplace?
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I guess better stated on this thread, a sidelock offered with the phrase Triple(Verrou) Fermeture Systme Greener.
You see:
Triple(Verrou) Fermeture Systme Greener
Triple(Verrou) Fermeture Systme Purdey
Triple fermeture hlice tres robuste
etc.
But what I am looking for is a diagram of:
Triple(Verrou) Fermeture Systme Ligeoise or Fermeture Ligeoise
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Sertisseur - Shotshell crimping machine
Added (since the word is also used in the jewelry industry):
It's also mentioned in various sites as: -- "Sertisseur pour le rechargement des cartouches de chasse" -- "Shotshell pince sertir pour rechargement"
-- "pince" - means "squeeze" -- "pince sertir" - crimp in the gun term
-- "rechargement" - reloading
(In English following the above... my French wife has created the word "Squinch". Instantly understandable by the way...DON'T TRY TO SQUINCH INTO THAT PARKING SPACE...tu et fou!!!).
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Gene, I could not find boudrole in any of my French dictionaries. Nor is it one of the words listed in the "Petit Lexique Technique" included in Pierre Fonteneau's "Les Armes de Chasse a Canon Lisse et Leurs Munitions". I've left that book next to my computer so I can check your list against what Fonteneau has included in his.
Thanks for your efforts. French shotgun cranks appreciate it.
Speaking of which . . . I recently passed on the chance to buy a really nice (and fairly modern) French 16 from Gastinne Renette. Had relatively few proofmarks compared to the short novel you find on some French barrel flats, but it did carry the St. Etienne triple proof. Stock was too long and too high for me. Otherwise I'd own it.
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Thanks Larry. "Une Boudrole" is one of Raimey's Belgian finds having to do with a Greener cross bolt. I sort of silently thought of it as a "thingamajig." Probably highly specialized. Sorry about the Gastinne Renette but no sense in buying something that doesn't fit. Interesting that it had St. Etienne barrels. I sort of associated Parisian makers with Parisian or Belgian barrels. I love French gun catalogs. They always manage to get a picture of a pretty girl with gun in there someplace.
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Gene, I think we may have discussed this particular pair before: https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=100863514I've looked at them numerous times. A lot of quality there. But stock dimensions cause me to think I'd definitely want to have my hands on them before making an offer.
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Hi Raimey, The book this comes from is fascinating, but it documents use of "patois" i.e. extremely local (and dated) vernacular. I sincerely doubt anyone has used these words in the last 50 years in this almost dying local industry... All the best, WC-
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How does a little dog get you a 2 minute rest in the penalty box? Strange indeed, from a long time fan who remembers Maurice "The Rocket" Richard- Gordie Howe, Bobby Hull and who can forget Wayne Gretsky. Maybe high sticking, but the doggy on ice makes me think of a older Mickey Mouse winter-time cartoon with Pluto--
Thanks for your devoted service to America, Messer Argo. No wonder you are fluent in another language besides English. When I mentioned my surprise to learn you are from The Old Dominion, and not Louisiana, I merely surmised that more folks, including the Cajun population, were somewhat fluent in French than perhaps those in Utah or Alaska-- Then there is Canada- C'est La Vie, mon Ami!! Le Reynard
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Best lubricant I have ever found for the hinge pin on break-actioned shotguns is the grease that comes with garage door openers--small tube, I apply it when needed with a Q-tip right on the pin. RWTF
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IMO, Cajun French is worse. I've spent time in Quebec, and it's mainly the accent there. (And when I spend more than a few days, I discover that I'm starting to pick up their accent!) Cajuns . . . We were training a bunch of Louisiana National Guard soldiers at the Intel School at Ft McCoy one summer. I tried French with them. Had one helluva time understanding much of what they said. More vocabulary differences. My favorite from Quebec is "gosse". Slang for kid in standard French. In Quebec, it's slang for testicles. You wouldn't want to tell a Quebecois that you have 4 kids or you might shock the hell out of him!
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40 years ago I was in Brazzaville (French Congo) then a communist country called "Democratic Republic of the Congo). I drove my FJ-40 Land Cruiser from Brazza to Point Noire a few times....long drive on a dirt track, right through the middle of no-where and down through the jungled coast ranges. The EU was funding a new railroad route through the jungle...We would get permission to follow their work road which cut off a 100 miles or so. Both Kinshasa (formerly Leopoldville in Belgian Congo - Zaire) and Brazzaville - French Congo - were on the Congo River above the 300 miles of raging rapids - the head of navigation for 1500 miles of navigable waterway on the Congo River and tributaries. The trick was to get from the coast up to the Stanley Pool. Both countries had railways leading up to the capitals which made the economy work.
I took a young embassy officer from NYC with me once...he'd never seen so much green desolation, In a town called Loudima, we were driving slowly up the "Main Street" when we saw a white guy. We stopped, He was a Cajun. There were 9 of them from Houma LA at a government run sugar plantation outside of Loudima maintaining sugar mill equipment. I was the consul and was supposed to know every American in country...I hadn't a clue they were there - in a communist place yet! Somehow the Congolese (really the Congolese were educated - a tribesman on the beach in Pointe Noire was using the subjunctive - the university for all of French Equitorial Africa was in Brazza) somehow understood their French...it was difficult.
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Just to finish the story of that trip.....about 100 miles west of Loudima, we came to an uphill in the road....scrub countryside....light failing. Following the dust track up the hill the Land Cruiser came to a sudden halt. Turned out timber trucks had cut foot deep ruts in the surface of the road...dust filled the tracks..the LC was sitting with both transfer cases on clay hardened to virtual cement while all four wheel spun in free space....occupied only by powder dust. It was impossible to get off. I had a winch...no tree was nearer that 400 yards away. Dusk was coming on...somewhere drums were beating. The NYC guy said, "We've made it! We are right in the middle of no-where!") In the gloaming though I thought I saw a white something about 400 yards up the hill. I walked the hill and there was a White 1960 DeSoto Convertible...all 18' of it, with two White guys in it. Turns out they were Angolans from Cabinda. We pushed the DeSoto down to the LC thinking I could use its 4500 lbs of weight to get purchase for the winch. Nothing doing. So they piled (stinking) into the LC and promptly began drinking the cold beer from the ice chest. About 2300 hrs a timber truck came by and pulled us out. I towed the DeSoto about 10 miles to the railhead where the Angolans left us. A memory of Africa. Oh wait, on a subsequent trip I was arrested by the Communist boss of Pointe Noire and held for 6 hours.... And then there were the road blocks with the AK's shoved in your face...oh well (I always carried packs of cigarettes for such contingenices).
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I bounded thru Point Noire a time or two and I know the area like back of hand. But my time was spent between Mayumba inland towards the natural nuclear reactors past Franceville, etc. Believe me nothing has really changed since you passed thru less that have cellular devices now.
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Merci, mon ami-- I like Cajun music, but I also like Zydeco. Who else could take a ribbed washboard and use it for the rhythm section of a Cajun band-locals here have band names like "Back Bayou" and "The Washboard Kings"-- Bluegrass is No. 1 for me, but Cajun has a flavor and rhythm all its own. Joyeaux Noel!! LeReynard....
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Dave has allowed us to post more French terms. The upgrade did not take on many punctuation marks and especially diacritical marks for foreign languages. Dave is working on this. So I reposted the first page dictionary which did indeed take.
In the meantime, here are a few new terms which I've added to the master list on the first page. If any of you have more terms..metallurgy, alloys, variants on names, etc. Please post here. I'll add them to the first page master list. Hopefully the computer glitch can soon be rectified.
Creusot? - hammered? Chasse (m) sous Bois - Upland woods hunting Déboulé (m)? - in the wild? Forage - boring (of barrels Fournie - not sure (concentrated perhaps?) Gerbe - pattern Gerbe de Plombe - shot pattern Muni - fitted NY D'Imphay? - (some alloy I would suppose) Recuit - annealed Usiné - machined
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More new words added to the vocabulary:
Boite a Fusil - gun case Brosse - gun cleaning bore brush Carnier - Shotshell pouch Chargette - powder measure Douille - Shotshell husk éponge - bore cleaning swab Fourreau - Leg-o-mutton case Réamorçoir - shotshell priming tool
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Two new French gun terms for me - both added to the French-English, English-French vocabulary p.1: -- Trempé (past tense from verb Tremper) - hardened (verb normally means "to soak") -- Foudres - Chambers??: normally a "foudre" is a large cask or barrel for aging beer or wine etc.
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Foudre ou éclair de foudre Le poinçon foudre nous indique que le fusil a été éprouvé en état de livraison.
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Fab500 translation; Eclair = Flash; Foudre = Lightning...thus "Flash of Lightning" ("Eclair de Foudre") = the in-house proof stamp for La ManuResponse from Argo44:Il y a aussi un "coup de foudre," un état souvent trouvé en France, particulièrement pendent le printemps. Comme moi quand J'ai rencontre ma femme (française - Lyonaise) il y a plus de 40 ans. (There was also a "love at first sight," a state often found in France, especially during Spring..like me when I met my French-Lyon wife 40 years ago)Donc, le poinçon pour numéro de modèle " 8E..." dans le livre sur La Manu - ( PT 2 couronnes - foudres) - n'est pas pour le chambre, mais, plutôt, est indicatif d'en "éprouve en état de livraison" - ca va vous dire ces fusil de La Manu aurait eu ce poinçon 1923-39? Thus, the stamp for model number 8E... in the book Manufrance - (PT 2 couronnes - foudres) - was not for the chambers, but instead was indicative of an "in-house proof"...- that is to say that the guns of Manufrance would have had that stamp from 1923 -39? Merci infinitement, Fab....peut être vous pourriez être intéressé en cette ligne, ou nous avons conclu que les poinçons pour les chambres des fusils de chasse fabrique à Saint-Étienne étaient en cm de 1889 a jus après Juin 1912. (Selon les cannons fabrique par Didier-Drevet qui avaient une date): Sa permis un peut la comprehension du date de fabrication des fusil de cette période. https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=484199(Thanks much, Fab..Perhaps you might find this line interesting, where we concluded that the stamps for the chambers of shotguns made in Saint-Etienne were in CM from 1889 to just after June 1912. (Per the barrels made by Didier-Drevet which were dated): This permitted a bit the understanding of the date of fabrication of guns from that period)
s'il vous plait excuse mon français Gene Williams (Voila les vrais "éclairs de foudre"- ). (Here are the true "chocolate eclairs from the vat" - a pun on the above "eclair de foudre" - flash and lightning)
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Salut Argo44, Votre français est très bon. À partir de 1926, la MF ne passe plus par le banc d'épreuve de Saint-Etienne et éprouve ses armes en interne. Le poinçon PT couronné, ainsi que le poinçon foudre sont remplacés (voir photo). Les renseignements que je vous donne sont extraits de ce livre. https://www.lamanu-armes-edition.com/
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Translation of Fab's above comment which is very interesting! From 1926 MF no longer used the Saint-Etienne proof house; They proofed their arms internally. The "Crowned PT" stamp, as well as the "foudre" stamp replaced them (Saint-Étienne proof house stamps) (see photo).
This information comes from this book: https://www.lamanu-armes-edition.com/
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Gene--Here are a few more I didn't notice as I scrolled through this topic:
alesage (accent on first e)--boring (barrels) bourrelet--rim (of shell) drageoir---rim cuts. Syn: feuillure. lisse--smooth (as in smoothbore). Also sometimes a syn. for cylinder bore. recul--recoil sertissage--crimp/crimping
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I think that gun is sold, Raimey. I didn’t buy it, by the way.
Gene, I think the technical French term for color case hardening is “trempe’ jaspe’, but, it wouldn’t surprise me if I have the spelling wrong.
Best, Ted
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Ted, per our dictionary: Jaspage - case coloring Jaspé(e) - case colored
So I would think that "Trempé" has the feel of "quenched."
This from "Lingee" (Google) - "Special alloy steel, heat treated through quenching and tempering" = "Acier spécial en alliage traité thermiquement par trempe et revenu"
(New words? Alliage - Alloy Revenu - Tempering Traité thermiquement - Heat treated -
Here are a couple of more... Procédé de trempage - tempering process. Tempérage - tempering
Thanks Larry, I'll add those terms. Once we dig into gun technocalia it's a never ending process and God help us when we get into some of the really technical metallurgical pamphlets.
(I thought we had "Iisse." I wonder if this is an Italian term...when you buy penne there are two types - 'lisse" are the smooth ones without ridges.
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I checked the most recent complete list back on p. 10. Lisse isn't there. But I might have missed it in the last few pages if it's a later addition. Good to see the list growing! Plenty of interest. And even a few scattered francophones!
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By the way as these new words come up...I'm adding them to the first page...No need to search the line for a word unless I've missed it; plus, when the "upgrade" happened, all the accents, circumflexes, etc. became blobs. I've fixed the "blobs" on the first page.
and thanks to all who have contributed to this dictionary - it is far and away the best on the internet.
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New words added to first page from the article on Maisonnial, French Saint-Etienne gunmaker:
l’anglaise bouquet - English rose (engraving term Ciselures sur les coquille - chiseled shell motif (engraving term) Coquilles ciselures - chiseled shell motif (engraving term) Corps de platines - side plates Entaillage - inletting . . un entaillage droit - straight inletting . . a bascule entaillee - insetted action . . double entaillage - double inletting Faux axes de platines - false side-plate pins Faux-corps - false side plates; i.e. contra-platines Gravure en pointes d’epinee - thorn point engraving Relime soignee avec filets - double line with breaks (engraving term) Rosaces - rosettes (engraving term)
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New word added to first page: Doll's Head - Tete de Poupée (f)
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Culture cynégétique - hunting culture Creusot? - hammered? (A mining/metallurgy center but believe it meant "hammered' in the use I saw.) Chasse (m) sous Bois - Upland woods hunting Déboulé (m)? - unleashed; in the wild Empreinte (f) de chambre - chamber cast Forage - boring (of barrels) Gerbe - pattern Gerbe de Plombe - shot pattern Jauge d’alésage - bore gauge Moulage (m) de chambre - chamber cast Muni - fitted NY D'Imphay? - (some alloy I would suppose) Recuit - annealed Usiné – machined
I can no longer edit the first page dictionary. I'll move it to a new post today.
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Dave allowed me 5 years leeway to edit because of Reilly line, et.al. 5 years has expired for the first page and I can't add words. Will start adding here:
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Abîmé(e) - spoiled/ruined/damaged Acier m - steel …Acier chocolat - excessively soft steel (Belgian trade vernacular) …Acier damas (also "damas") - damascus steel …Acier revenu - tempered steel …Acier trempé - quenched steel Alésage -boring (barrels) l’anglaise bouquet - English rose (engraving term Argent m - silver ...Vieil argent - old silver Ailes f - side clips Alliage - Alloy Âme du canon f - bore Amorce f - primer Amortisseur m - pad (as in buttpad) Ancien - old Anson et Deeley; Anson m - box lock Arabesque f - scroll (engraving) Arme f - weapon Arme de poing f - hand gun Arme d’épaule f - long gun Arme à percution centrale f - centerfire gun Armé - cocked Armurier m - gun shop owner Armurerie f - gun shop, not a maker, historically a body armor vendor Arquebusier m - Gun maker (abbreviated as "Arqr") Artisan, artisane - artisan (male, female) Avantage (à droite, à gauche) - cast-off, cast-on
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Baguette de nettoyage f - ramrod, cleaning rod Banc d’épreuves m - proof house Bande f - rib …Prolongement de la bande - extension of the rib (to the receiver) …Bande ventilée - ventilated rib …Bande a tenon d'accrochage s'encastrant dans la bascule - doll’s head …Band de visee - ventilated rib Balle f - bullet or slug Bascule f - receiver/action …Bascule ronde - round receiver Basculeur m - tradesman putting the action together Bec m - heel …Bec de Crosse - heel of the butt plate Bille acier f - steel shot Bois m - wood ...Bois de noyer - walnut ......Noyer blond - blond walnut ...Bois d'érable - maple Boite a Fusil - gun case Boitier m - housing Bouche f - muzzle Bouchon de canon - bullet starter (muzzle loader) Bouchon de percuteur - Firing pin bushing Bouquets (gravure à) - rose engraving Bourre - wad Bourrelet--rim (of shell) Brasé - brazed ...brasé sur - brazed on Bretelle - sling ...Bretelle à enrouleur - retractable sling (like on a Ideal) ...Brettelle retractable - retractable (built in) sling Brevet - Patent Breveté(e) - patented ...Breveté(e) SGDG - model patent ("sans garantie du gouvernement")- Patented Without Guarentee of the Government". French distinction that designates a technical patent in the U.S. sense, as opposed to trademark and the old design patent number system that dealt only with name and shape. Brisure, à - Breakage Broche - pinfire Bronze - bronze; (copper and tin alloy) Bronzage - barrel blacking Brosse - gun cleaning bore brush Busc - comb (for a stock)
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Cale - wedge (in a double rifle), or spacer between barrels Calibre - caliber Canon - barrel ...Canons frettés - sleeved barrel set (externally sleeved or jacketed, built-up barrels) ...Canons juxtaposés - SxS double barrel ...Canon lisse - smoothbore ...Canons miroir - mirror finish bores ......Canonnerie miroir - ditto ...Canons mixtes (Arme à) - cape gun ...Canon monobloc - Barrel set made in one block of steel ...Canon poli - honed barrel ...Canon rayé - rifled barrel ...Canon rayé dispersant - Rifled spreader barrel (usually Euro woodcock guns) ...Canons superposés - over/under Canonnier - barrel maker Capuche - metal piece surrounding the Deeley forearm push button Carabine - rifle, carbine Carabine de salon - indoor rifle Carabine de jardin - light rifle, rook rifle Carnier - Shotshell pouch Cartouches à plombs - shot shell Cartouches à balle - slug shell Cartouche de rechargement - reloader Chambrage - chamber(ing) Chambre - chamber Chêne - Oak Chargette - powder measure Chasse - Hunting Chasse (m) sous Bois - Upland woods hunting Chevrotines - buck shot (large shot 2 - 000) Chien - hammer …Crête de chien - hammer spur …Chiens extérieurs - external hammers Choke - Choke …Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse) …Demi choke - Modified choke …Plein - full (as in choke) Chromage - chromed bores Chromé(e) - chrome plated Ciselures sur les coquille - shell motif on fences (engraving term) Clé - key …Clé Beringer - type of underlever also called Pontet-Serpent …Clé de bascule - top lever key …Clé devant pontet - underlever (Lefraucheux). …Clé d’ouverture - opening key …Clé longueur - side lever …Clé sur le dessus - top lever key Coffret - case (to put the gun in) Contre-platines - side-plates Convergence - regulation (shotgun or double rifle) Coquille - action ball (fences) ...Coquilles de la Bascul - fences . .Coquilles ciselures - shell motif on fences (engraving term) Coquille de fusil de chasse - empty shotgun shell casing; Husk or Hull Corne - horn Corps de platines - side plates Cran de sécurité - Safety catch Crête de chien - hammer spur Creusot? - hammered? (A mining/metallurgy center but believe it may mean "hammered' in the useage I saw.) Crochet - barrel lump ...Crochets d’attache - barrel lump ...Crochets ajustés en queue d’aronde - dovetailed lump ...Crochet du canon - same ...Crochet encastré - dovetailed lump (embedded) ...Crochets rapportés - non integral lumps Crosse - stock ...Crosse anglaise - English stock ...Crosse à joue - stock with cheek piece ...Crosse de borgne - crossover stock ...Crosse demi-pistolet - round knob grip stock ...Crosse pistolet - pistol grip stock Crossier - stock maker Creusot? - hammered? (Perhaps referring to a town known for forging. Cuir - leather (for the sling) ...Cuir surpiqué - double layered sown leather Culot - Brass base of the shotgun shell Culture cynégétique - hunting culture Cuivre - copper Culasse - standing breech or bolt Culasse mobile - movable breech (i.e. on a Darne) Cylindrique - cylinder choke (synonym: lisse)
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Damasquiné - damascened Dans l'état - original Dans son jus - original, never modified or restored Déboulé (m)? - unleashed - in the wild? Demi-armé - half cocked (for hammer guns) Demi-bloc - chopper lump Détente - trigger ...Double détente - double trigger ...Monodétente - single trigger ......Monodétente sélective - selective single trigger Devant - forearm . .Devant à pompe - Pump gun forearm D'occasion - used Doré - gold filled Double détente - double trigger Double verrou de fermeture - double locking bolt Douille - Shotshell husk Drageoir---rim cuts. Syn: feuillure.
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Ébène - ebony Écouvillon - cleaning rod and implement ...Écouvillon en laiton - brass barrel (cleaning) brush Écusson - shield (on a stock) Éjecteurs automatiques - automatic ejectors Éjecteur/extracteur a grand développement - ejector contact point on the hull is over 1/4 of the circumference. Normally high-end guns only. Emouler de Canons de Fusil- Barrel Grinder/Polisher (archaic) Empreinte (f) de chambre - chamber cast Enfoncements - dents Entaillage - inletting . . un entaillage droit - straight inletting . . a bascule entaillee - insetted action . . double entaillage - double inletting Épaisseur - thickness Épaisseur des parois du canon - Barrel walls thickness éponge - bore cleaning swab Épreuves - proof ...Banc d’épreuves - proof house ...double épreuve - double proof ...triple épreuve - triple proof ...épreuve ordinaire - version of normal proof ...épreuve ordinaire - modern day "triple proof" Érable - maple (wood) État - condition ...État mécanique - mechanical condition ...État moyen - so so condition; medium condition ...État mauvais - bad condition …Pas en bon état - not in good condition ...État neuf - new condition Étranglement - choke Etui - Gun case; gun slip Express (also double "express") - double rifle Extracteur - extractors
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Fabricant (also abbreviated as "Fabt") - maker Fausses-platines - side-plates Faux axes de platines - false side-plate pins Faux-corps - false side plates; i.e. contra-platines Fermeture en “T" - Jones underlever also known as "T" Anglais Feu central, arme à - centerfire (gun) Feuillet(s) - sight leaf Feutrine - baize (gun case) Finition - finish …Finition argent - silver finish …Finition blue - blued finish …Finition canon de fusil - gunmetal finish …Finition chromée - chrome finish …Finition nickelée - nickel finish. …Finition noir - blued finish Forage - bore (barrel)(boring) Forgé(e) - forged Foudre(s) - 4 lightening bolts - St Etienne proof mark for guns finished when proofed 1923-39 Fournie - not sure (concentrated perhaps?) Fourreau - Leg-o-mutton case Frères - Brothers Frette - monoblock; Fusil - firearm (normally a shotgun but also a military rifle) ...Fusil à broche - pinfire gun ...Fusil à canon scié - sawed off shotgun ...Fusil à chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader ...Fusil à chien - hammer gun ...Fusil de chasse - shotgun ...Fusil juxtaposé - double gun ... Fusil juxtaposé artisanal Français - Artisanal French double gun (quite often maker not known) ...Fusils lever-action - lever action gun ......Fusil à levier de sous-garde - ditto ......Fusil levier sous garde - ditto ...Fusil à percussion - muzzle loading, percussion rifle ...Fusil à piston - percussion gun ...Fusil à pompe - pump gun (also "branlette" in French hunting vernacular) ...Fusil à silex - flintlock
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Gâchette - sear; trigger Gâchette interruptrice - safety sear; cocking sear Gâchette facile - trigger happy Garnisseur - tradesman assembling barrels, ribs and lumps Gerbe - pattern Gerbe de Plombe - shot pattern Graveur - engraver Gravure en pointes d’epinee - thorn point engraving Gravure(s) - engraving(s) Grenadière - sling swivel Grenailles - smaller shot (in a shotgun shell) (4-9) Goupille - round pin Goupille de charnière - hinge pin Guidon - front sight ... protège-guidon - sight hood Guilloché(e) - ornamented with geometric design ...Vis guillochées - ornamented screws
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Hausse - back sight (originally adjustable type)
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Illisible - illegible
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Jaspage - case coloring Jaspé(e) - case colored Jaugé - guage Jaugé à - gauged, measured at Jauge d’alésage - bore gauge Jaugé de chambre - chamber measuring gage Jeu - play (in the sense of movement) ...Jeu dans la bascule - (play in the receiver) ...Sans jeu - without play Joue - cheekpiece ...Joue allemande - German style cheeckpiece Juxtaposé - side by side
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Laine d’acier - steel wool Laiton - Brass: alloy - 70 parts copper; 30 parts zinc Lefaucheux à clé - type of underlever Levier - Lever Levier d'armement - cocking lever; chagring lever Levier de sécurité (ou sécurité) - safety lever Levier de sécurité (ou sécurité) à la poignée - grip safety Levier de sous garde - cocking underlever (Winchester type) Levier sous la longuesse - underlever Levier à volute - type of underlever Lisse - smooth (as in smoothbore). Also sometimes a syn. for cylinder bore. Longuesse - forestock Longuesse à poussoir - Anson forend (forestock with pushrod release) Longuesse-sous-main amovible - underlever Loupe d’accrochage - doll’s head Lunette - scope
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Maniable - easy to the hand/handy Moitié armé - half cocked (for hammer guns) Mono-canon - single barrel Mono-coup - single shot Monodétente - single trigger Manouvrable - handy Monteur à bois - stocker Moulage (m) de chambre - chamber cast Moulé(e) - molded Mouture - grind; version Muni - fitted
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Nickelé(e) - nickel plated Noix - Hammer axis NY d'Imphay? - (some sort of alloy?)
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Oeilleton - peep sight Or - gold ...Or fin - fine gold Doré - gold plated or gold applique Oreille - Sideclip Organes de visée - sights Orné(e) - ornamented Ouverture par clé devant pontet - underlever Ouverture sous pontet - underlever Oxydation - oxydation
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Paire - pair of guns Pente - drop ...Pente au busc - drop at comb ...Pente au talon - drop at heel Percussion centrale - center percussion, center fire (hammer gun) Percuteur - Firing pin Pièce d’armement – Cocking dog (American); Cocking sear Pierrage - honing Pique - pitted ...Piqûres - pitting ...Petites piqûres - light pitting Planchette - back sight folding leaf Plaque de couche - butt plate Plaqué(e) - plated Platine - side lock ...Platine Holland - front lock as made by H&H or others ...Platine arrière - back lock ...Platine avant - front lock ...Platine démontable - hand removable sidelock ...Platine encastrée - embedded locks ...Platine rebondissante - rebounding lock Plein--full (as in choke) Plomb - lead (shot) Poids de la détente. - trigger pull Poignée (f) - pistol grip, grip Poinçon - stamp ...Poinçons réglementaires - legal stamps ...Poinçons d'épreuve - proof marks Poire à poudre - powder horn; powder flask Poli(e) - polished Polisseur - barrel grinder Polissage en long - longitudinal honing Poncée huile (Crosse) - sanded with oil finish (stock) Pontet - trigger guard …Pontet-Serpent - type of underlever also called Clé Beringer …Pontet à volute - trigger guard with volute in front Portée - range (as in shooting distance) Poudre - powder (gunpowder) ...Poudre blanche--smokeless powder ...Poudre pyroxylée - smokeless powder (French) ...Poudre sans fumée - smokeless powder ...Poudre Vive - smokeless Powder ( Belgian) Poussoir - push rod (forestock) Propre - clean, nice
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Quadrillage - Checkering Quadrilleur - Checkerer Queue d’aronde - dovetail (old French for"swallow tail")
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Rallonge de crosse - stock extension Rayé à chargement par la bouche - muzzle loader rifle Rayures - striation or shallow rifling Réamorçoir - shotshell priming tool Recuit - annealed Recul - recoil Relevé - cocked Relime - steel parts shaping (by chisel or file) Relime soignee avec filets - double line with breaks (engraving term) Relimeur - tradesman shaping the action and other parts Repoussé en - decoratively hammered Revenu - Tempering Ressort - spring …Ressort à lames - Coil spring …Ressort spirale - spiral spring Restauration - restoration Réticule - Reticle (scope) Rinceaux - leaves and branches (engraving) Rosaces - rosettes (engraving term) Rouille - rust ...Rouille légère - light rust
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Sabot - butt pad Sabot - sabot projectile Scène de chasse - hunting scene (engraving) Sécurité - safety Sécurité à la poignée - grip safety Sécurité dès qu'elle est arméee - safety automatically on when cocked Serré - tight Sertissage - crimp/crimping SGDG - see Brevete SGDG Similor - alloy; 100 parts Red copper; 12 parts zinc Soudure - solder …Soudure d’argent/à l'argent - Silver solder …Soudure à l’étain - Tin solder (lead and tin mixed) …Soudure de cuivre - Copper brazing (red coper, old silver, antimony, zinc, etc.) Stéphanois - from Saint-Etienne region Successeur (also abbreviated to "succr") - Successor to Souplesse de la gâchette - trigger pull Sûreté - safety
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"T" Anglais - Jones underlever also known as “Fermeture en T" Talon - heel Talon de crosse - upper point of the butt plate Tempérage - tempering . .Procédé de trempage - tempering process. Tete de Poupée (f) - Doll's Head Tirant de Crosse - Stock attachment bolt Tire-cartouche - extracteur Tirette - action rod Tombac - alloy; 16 parts copper; 1 part zinc; 1 part tin Tonnerre - place where the ignition happens Trempé (past tense from verb Tremper) - quenched - hardened Traité thermiquement - Heat treated Triple verrou Greener - Triple lock of a double Purdey bite and a Greener 3rd Triple verrou Purdey” - Triple lock in case of a Purdey nose 3rd bite. Triple verrou - triple lock Triplette - 3-gun set Tromblon - blunderbuss (or bad shotgun) Tube - barrel tube Type anglais - English style
U Usiné - machined
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Valise - Case Verrou - lock, also bolt Verrou de fermeture - closing bolt Verrou vertical - rising bite Verrouillage - locking system Vernis - varnish Vis - Screw
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============================= English - French ==============================
Here is the first cut of English to French double-gun terms. it's easier to go from an acquired language to a native language (in this case French to English) than vise versa. Plus the two languages are structured differently. French is more US Military - think, "trousers, cotton, padded, OD, 1 each" vs "one pair of padded cotton olive drab trousers" so if you have a hard time finding a term, find the noun and it may be a sub entry. And I'm not sure I actually know all the English gun terms the pros use or are interested in. Finally for the French nouns, without the articles it's not real Frenc and for the adjectives - they will vary according the modified noun M or F. So welcome all corrections.
English-French double-gun terms
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Action (receiver) - bascule Action ball (fences) - coquille Action rod - tirette Annealed - Recuit Artisan - artisan Artisanal - artisanal Artisanal French side x side (unnamed) - Fusil juxtaposé artisanal français As is - Dans l'etat
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Back sight - hausse Barrel(s) - canon(s) …barrel, single - mono-canon …barrel, double/SxS - canons juxtaposés …barrel, externally sleeved - canon frettés …barrel, honed - canon poli …barrel najer - canonnier Barrel assembler - garnisseur Barrel lump - See Lump, Barel …Barrel, rifled barrel - canon rayé …Barrel, rifled, spreader - canon rayé dispersant …barrel set made in one bloc of steel - canon monobloc Barrel blacking - bronzage Barrel wedge/spacer (double guns) - cale Blunderbuss - tromblon Bore - Âme du canon Bore (barrel) - forage Bore brush - Brosse Bore gauge - Jauge d’alésage Bore swab - éponge Box lock - Anson et Deeley; Anson Brass - laiton Brazed - brasé ...Brazed on - brasé sur Breakage - brisure, à Breech/bolt - culasse …Breech, movable (Darne) - culasse mobile; Culasse a mouvement linéaire Bronze - bronze Brothers (as in a company) - frères Brush, barrel cleaning, brass - Écouvillon en laiton Bullet - balle ...Jacketed bullet - balle blindée Bullet starter (muzzle loader) - bouchon de canon Butt pad - amortisseur Butt pad - sabot Butt plate - plaque de couche
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Cape gun - canons mixtes (Arme à) Carbine - carabine Case coloring - jaspage - Case colored - jaspé(e) Case, gun - coffre; feutrine; baize Case - valise Cast - advantage …Cast off - advantage à droite …Cast on - advantage à gauche Cartridge - etui Caliber - calibre Centerfire gun - arme à percution centrale. Chamber - chambre, foudre(s) Chamber cast - Empreinte (f) de chambre; Moulage (m) de chambre Chambering - chambrage Checkerer - quadrille Checkering - quadrillage Cheekpiece - joue …German style cheekpiece - joue allemande Chisling - relime Choke - choke; étranglement …cylinder choke - clindrique; lisse …modified choke - demi-choke …full choke - plein Chopper lump - demi-bloc Chrome - chrome Chrome plated - chromé(e) Chrome bores - chromage Clean (state of condition ) - propre Cleaning brush (brass, barrel) - Écouvillon en laiton Cleaning rod - baguette de nettoyage; Cleaning rod and implement - Écouvillon Cocked - armé Cocked - relevé Cocking dog - Pièce d’armement Cocking lever - levier d’armement Cocking sear - Pièce d’armement Coil spring - ressort à lames Comb (for a stock) - busc Condition - état …mechanical condition - état mécanique …new condition - état neuf …so so condition - état moyen …medium condition - état moyen …bad condition - état mauvais …not in good condition Copper - cuivre
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Damaged (ruined; spoiled) - abîmé(e) Damascened - Damasquiné Dents - enfoncements Deely firearm push button metal piece - capuche Doll's Head - Tete de Poupée (f) Double barrel SxS - Canons juxtaposés Double locking bolt - double verrou de fermeture Double rifle - express; double express Double trigger - see tirgger, double Dovetail - queue d’aronde Drop - pente …drop at comb - pente au busc …drop at heel - pente au talon
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Ebony - Ébène Ejectors - éjecteurs ,,,automatic ejectors - éjecteurs automatiques Engraver - graveur Engraving - gravure Engraving, (rose) - bouquets (gravure à) Engraving, leaves and branches - rinceaux Engraving, hunting scene - scène de chasse Escutcheon plate - pièce de pouce Extractors - extracteurs; tire-cartouche
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Fences - coquille; coquilles de la bascule Filing - relime Finish - finition …silver finish - finition argent …blued finish - finition blue …gun metal finish - finition canon de fusil …chrome finish - finition chromée …nickel finish - finition nickelée …blued finish - finition noir Firearm - fusil Firing pin - percuteur Firing pin bushing - bouchon de percuteur Fitted - Muni Flintlock - Fusil à silex Fore-end/stock - devant …Deely pushbutton fore-end - devant à pompe Forestock - longuesse …Anson fore-end - longesse a poussoir …Forestock push rod - poussoir Forged - Forgé(e) Front sight - guidon Front sight hood - protège-guidon
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Gold - Or …gold filled - Doré Gauge - Jaugé …Chamber gauge - Jaugé de chambre Gauged - Jaugé à Grip - la poignée Grip safety - Sécurité à la poignée (see safety) Gun - fusil …Artisanal French side x side - Fusil juxtaposé Artisanal Français …Flintlock - Fusil à silex …Hammer gun - fusil à Chien …Lever action gun - Fusils lever-action; Fusil à levier de sous-garde; Fusil levier sous garde …Percussion gun - Fusil à percussion; Fusil à piston …Pump gun - Fusil à pompe; branlette …Shotgun - fusil de chasse …Side by side - fusil juxtaposé Gun case - coffre; feutrine; baize; Boîte a fusil Gun maker - arquebusier (abbr: “arqr”) Gun shop - armurerie Gun shop owner - armurier
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Half-cocked - demi-armé Half-cocked - moitié armé Hammer - chien Hammer axis - noix Hammer, external - chien extérieurs Hammer spur - Crête de chien Hammered (metallurgy) - Creusot? (Coll?) Hand gun - arme de poing Handy (maneuverable) - maniable; manouvrable. Hardened - Trempé (past tense from verb Tremper) Heel - talon Hinge pin - goupille de charnièr Honed barrel - canon poli Honing - pierrage Horn - corne Housing - boitier Hunt/Hunting - Chasse ..Upland woods hunting - Chasse (m) sous Bois Hunting culture - Culture cynégétique - hunting culture Husk (empty shell) - coquille de fusion de chases
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Illegible = illisible
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Jacketed (bullet) - blindée (balle blindée) (blindé means "armored")
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Key - Clé Key, top lever - Clé d’ouverture; Clé sur le dessus
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Lead - plomb Leather - cuir …double layered sown leather - cuir surpiqué Leg-o-mutton case - Fourreau Length of pull - longueur épaule Lever - levier …cocking lever - levier d’armement …safety lever - levier de sécurité Lever action gun - Fusils lever-action; Fusil à levier de sous-garde; Fusil levier sous garde light/rook rifle - Carabine de jardin Lock (bolt) - verrou …closing lock - verrou de fermature Lock,side - platine …Lock, front (H&H) - platine Holland; plainte avant …Lock, back - plantine arrière …Locks, hand removable side locks - platine démontable …Locks, embedded - platine encastrée Locks, rebounding - plating rebondissante Locking bolt - verrou de fermeture … Double locking bolt - double verrou de fermeture Locking system - verroullage Long gun - Arme d’épaule Lump, barrel - Crochet; Crochets d’attache; crochet de canon Lump, barrel, dovetailed - Crochets ajustés en queue d’aronde Lump, barrel, dovetailed (embedded) - Crochet encastré Lump, non integral - Crochets rapportés
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Machined - Usiné Maker - Fabricant (Fabt) Maple - bois d’érable; érable Mirror barrel finish - Canons miroir; Canonnerie miroir Molded - moulé(e) Monoblock - frette Muzzle - bouche Muzzle loader - Fusil à chargement par la bouche Muzzle Loading rifle - Rayé à chargement par la bouche
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New - neuf Nickel plated - nickelé(e)
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Oak - chêne Old - ancien; vielle Original/never restored - dans son jus, dans l'état Ornamented - orné(e) Ornamented in geometric design - guilloché(e) Ornamented screws - vis guilloché(e) Oxydation - oxydation
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Pad - Amortisseur Pair (of guns) - paire Patent - brevet Patented - breveté(e) …Model (engineering) patent - breveté(e) SGDG Pattern - Gerbe ...Shot parer - Gerbe de Plombe Peep sight - oeilleton Percussion gun - Fusil à percussion; Fusil à piston Pin (round) - goupille Pin (hinge) - goupille de charnière Pinfire - broche Pinfire gun - fusil à broche Pitted - piqûe Pitting - piqûres …light pitting - petites piqûres Plated - plaqué(e) Play (movement) - jeu …Play in the receiver - jeu dans la bascule …without play - sans jeu Powder measure - Chargette Primer tool - Réamorçoir Proof - Épreuves …Normal proofed - épreuve ordinaire …Double proofed - double épreuve …Triple proofed - triple épreuve …Superior proofed - épreuve ordinaire …Proof house - Banc d’épreuves Proof mark stamps - poinçons d'épreuve Pump gun - Fusil à pompe; branlette
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Quenched - Trempé
R
Ramrod - Baguette de nettoyage Receiver (action) - bascule .. .Receiver, round - bascule ronde Regulation - convergence Reloaded shell - cartouche de rechargement Restoration - restauration Reticle (scope) - réticule Rib - Bande ...Rib extension - prolongement de la bande) …Rib, Ventilated - bande ventilée Rifle - Carabine …rifle, indoor - Carabine de salon …rifle, light/rook - Carabine de jardin Rifled barrel - Canon rayé Rifled spreader barrel - Canon rayé dispersant Rifling - rayures Rising bite - verrou vertical Rod, action - tirette Rook/light rifle - Carabine de jardin Round Pin - goupille Rust - rouille …light rust - rouille légère
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Safety - sécurité; sûreté …automatic safety - sécurité dès qu'elle est arméee ..Safety lever - Levier de sécurité ..Grip safety - Sécurité à la poignée Safety catch - Cran de sécurité Safety lever - levier de sécurité Safety sear - Gachette interruptrice Saint-Etienne citizen - Stephanois Scope - lunette Scratches - rayures Screw - vis Scroll engraving - Arabesque Sear - gâchette …Safety sear - gâchette interruptrice Shell - Catouche; Etui …shot shell - Cartouches à plombs …slug shell - Cartouches à balle Shot - bille …shot (small) - grenailles (4-9) …shot, buck - chevrotines (2 - 000) …Steel shot - bille acre Shotgun - fusil de chasse …sawed off shotgun - Fusil à canon scié Shotgun shell husk - Douille Shotgun shell pouch - Carnier Side by side / SxS - Canons juxtaposés Side clips - Ailes Side lock - platine …Font lock (H&H) - platine Holland; plainte avant …Back lock - plantine arrière …hand removable side locks - platine démontable …Embedded locks - platine encastrée …rebounding locks - platine rebondissante Side plates (false) - contre-platines; fausse-platines Sights - organes de visée …front sight - guidon …back sight - hausse …back sight folding leaf - planchette …peep sight - oeilleton Sight leaf - feuillet(s) Silver - Argent …Old silver - vieil argent Sleeve (external) - frette Sling - bretelle … Retractable sling - bretelle à enrouleur; brettelle retractable Sling swivel - grenadière Slug - balle Smoothbore - Canon lisse Solder - soudure …silver solder - soudure d’argent/à l'argent …tin solder - soudure à l’étain …coper brazing - soudure de cuivre Spring - ressort …coil spring - ressort à lames ...Spiral spring - ressort spirale. Stamp (embossed) - poinçon …legal stamps - poinçons réglementaires …proof mark stamps - poinçons d'épreuve Standing breech/bolt - culasse Steel - Acier …Damascus steel - Acier damas ou damas …Quenched steel - Acier trempé …Soft steel - Acier chocolat …Tempered steel - Acier revenu Steel Shot - bille acier Steel wool - Laine d’icier Stock - crosse …English stock - crosse anglaise …Stock with cheek piece - crosse à joue …Crossover stock - crosse de boring …Round knob grip stock - crosse pistoles …Stock shield - écusson …Stock extension - rallonge de crosse Stock maker - crossier; monteur a bois Swallowtail - queue d’aronde SxS/double barrel - Canons juxtaposés
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Tempering - Tempérage; Devenu Tight - serré Trigger - Détente; gâchette (Coll). …double trigger - Double détente …single trigger - Monodétente ……selective single trigger - Monodétente sélective Trigger pull - souplesse de la gâchette; poids de la détente Tube - tube
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Underlever - Lefaucheux à clé; ………………Clé Beringer; ………………Clé sous pontet ………………Clée longueur ………………Levier à volute; ………………Levier sous la longuesse ………………Longuesse-sous- main amovible ………………Ouverture par clé devant pontet ………………Ouverture sous pontet ………………Pontet-Serpent; …Jones underlever - Fermeture en "T" Used - D’occasion
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Varnish - vernis Ventilated rib - bande ventilée
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Wad - bourre Walnut - bois de noyer ...Blond walnut - noyer blond Wood - bois
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Thanks for your efforts, Gene.
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I too would like to express my thanks to Gene and anyone else who has contributed.
The world cries out for such: he is needed & needed badly- the man who can carry a message to Garcia
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On another line the terms "Marcheur" came up and a French commentary on "Basculeur" seemed to put into question our definition in English. https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=636570#Post636570 . Marche (f) - Cocking and extracting/ejecting mechanism? . . . . .Comment: La marche d'un fusil est composée de pièces qui se mettent en mouvement quand tu ouvres le fusil. ("La marche" of a gun is composed of pieces which move when you open the gun.) . . Marcheur (m) - Barrel cocking and extraction/ejection fabricator? Re Bascule and Basculeur: Our definition of Bascule was: . . Bascule (f) - receiver/action . . . . . Bascule ronde - round receiver And Basuleur: . . Basculeur (m) - Action filer; Action maker However Basculeur per Fab and Larry is: . . Basculeur (m) - Joiner or barrel joiner. (Le basculeur est la personne qui monte les canons sur la bascule.). The word also is used in French industrial terms relating to the "tipping" or "tilting" devices. Both terms can be found in French ads (Basculeur being much more common) and both seem to be related: Paire de fusils de chasse juxtaposés à éjecteur, calibre 20, chambre 70, double détente, crosse anglaise, faux-corps, canons CONSTANT, gravure à bouquet par M.FREYCON MOF, basculeur et marcheur M. LUQUET MOF n° 6240-6241, parfait état avec valisehttps://www.ivoire-france.com/fr/lot-2817-504584-31_paire_fusils_chasse_juxtaposes_ejecteBut here is a list of the various occupations in finishing a gun which does not list "marcheur." It must be somewhat archaic or perhaps rare. Still looking for definitive word in English for each: Interesting that "Basculeur" (which might still be action maker or actioneer after all) is subdivided into -- sougardier - under plate maker? -- platineur - Side plate maker? -- relimeur -- ajusteur -- fermeur - action closing specialist? Rien ne démontre mieux l’étonnante complexité de l’armurie que la liste des opérations successives par lesquelles doit passer l’arme avant d’être parfaitement achevée. Voice cette liste telle qu’elle a été établie pour l’époque. 1) Canonnier (refoulage de la culasse, perçage du tube). Barrel maker – forging of the breech block, boring of the tubes La culasse – breech block refourage - Extrusion process of forging the breech block. 2) Fabricant de bandes (pièce servant à l’assemblage des deux tubes). Band maker 3) Garnisseur (assemblage des tubes et placement des crochets). “furnisher.” In gun terms he assembles the gun tubes and installs the lumps. (apparently rare) 4) Refoureur (1er reforage du canon). Barrel tube maker. 5) Epreuve (1er et 2éme). Proof 6) Basculeur – Barrel joiner - mounts the barrel to the action sougardier - under action plate maker platineur - Side action plate maker relimeur - fitting maker ajusteur; fermeur - specialist on the action closing mechanism. 7) Entailleur (préparation pour le montage à bois). - Inletter 8) Monteur à bois (façonnage et ajustage de la crosse et longuesse). Shaping and adjusting the stock and forestock 9) Equipeur (ajustage – 1er démontage – 2éme démontage). 10) Chambreur (façonnage de l’endroit recevant la cartouche). Chamberer 11) Repasseur en blanc. - proofer 12) Polisseur canon (1er polissage). Barrel tube polisher 13) Epreuve (3éme et 4éme épreuve). 14) Dressage intérieur du canon pour le tir. Finishing the bores 15) Repasseur en blanc (vérification après les épreuves). 16) Relimeur (relimage de la crosse). – fittings of the stock 17) Fonceur (3éme et 4éme épreuve). 18) Quadrilleur - Stock checkerer. (quadrillage de la crosse). Checkering 19) Guillocheur – engine turner or jeweller (guillochage de la bande du canon). Engine turning 20) Equipeur (démontage). 21) Polisseur (polissage de la bascule et petite pièces). 22) Graveur. - engraver 23) Ciseleur. – deep engraver (chisler) 24) Incrusteur - inlayer 25) Bronzeur (canon – barrel tanning? parfois la garniture). 26) Bleuisseur (garniture). Bluing (part of the finishing or sealing of the barrel 27) Trempeur (bascule et quelques pièces). - tempering 28) Repasseur à l’arme terminée (tout est revu et rectifié après trempe). 29) Fabricant d’anneaux. 30) Fabricant bretelles automatique. Automatic retracting sling
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Working on esoteric technical terms and translating into the English, whether Chinese medical vocabulary or Pashtu ideas of "Kentucky Fried Chicken" is always daunting. Trying to precisely define French terms for metallurgy and gun making is also difficult.
I have used "Linguee" to try to give context to some of the terms but with limited success. And I've done that with hours of work above. Some of the definitions are still not precise.
But I will say with chatGPT. . . it will be another story. My work here may be done both in translation and understanding and chaos may be tamed (other than several members of this board).
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Baluch are not Brahui, Brahui are Baluch
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