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Looks like the backwards C paired w/ a C was the tube mechanic. I would be most interested in the odd marks forward of the 15.1 Choke stamps on the scattergun tubes.
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Axel E. on the GGCA site gives that: "Johann Sigott, 1872 – 1955, was a gunmaker at Ferlach #34, Austria". Adding the average period of 24 years for attaining the rank of meister büchsenmacher would suggest that Johann Sigott attained that rank in the 1896-1897 time frame. Thanks again Moose Snoot for the research effort.
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A big thank you to you all, for the help so far.
-Raimy,those odd marks seems to be EF stamps, almost polished away.
-I have seen that thread before. Those barrels has also got the double C stamp. Do any of you know if that stamp is related to Sigott only, or is it a common Ferlach stamp seen on multiple brands?
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  Skrotnissen, can you confirm or deny if your tubes have a similar internal pattern? Nah, I'd say the CC mechanic was @ the Ferlacher Consortium. The stamp of liability & compensation appears on many other Ferlach offerings. Being new to the site, how successful were you in garnering info when you searched, i.e., is the info arranged on the DGS BBS so that threads w/ pertinent info came to light high in the search results? Cheers, Raimey rse
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No, the gun do not have this special bore. This gun has normal smooth shotgunbarrels.
I googeled the internett to find as much information as possible for my gun. I have not yet tried to search insider the forum as a member. I will give you feedback.
Would you say that code number 34, always would be stamped on the gun if it was made by Sigott in Ferlach, or are you familiar with chases of "named guns" without matchingen number?
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No, you are compressing time as the Ferlach Maker's nummers as issued by the Brits were post WWII. Regarding Ferlach, I'd say the name atop the rib would at a minimum denote effort & @ least finishing effort by the maker. Might be some mechanic's initials around the weight of the tubeset.
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Raimey my Sensei! I guess I got caught in the web. :-) There are circulating a list of the makers numbers on the web. This list states that the pre war number for Sigott was 34, and that the post war number was 43. This Sigott büchsflinte has the exact same combination of dollhead combined with Greener cross bolt. Also the diopter is similar to mine.  Büchflinte This gun looks almost like it's been engraved by the same engraver, as mine. The engraving of the right sidelock is extremely similar to my left sidelock. The engraving of the lock for the front wood is exactly similar mine, line by line. The top lever, dollhead and the end of the greener bolt also seems to be the same. Could this be a confirmation or tell tale of the guns origin? I don't know if the engravers was employees of the gunmaker, or if they where working for them selfes. Thanks in advance, Joar
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Joar:
Pre-WWII use of maker's numbers goes against the grain as the 1st number in the preliminary datastring of each sporting weapon has an issued proofhouse number, which was designed to obscure the actual maker from the proof mechanics in an effort to deter bias toward a certain maker or pool of makers. As I understand it, post WWII the Brits devised a numerical system in an effort to tally the number of respective weapons that originated w/ a specific maker & then to keep tabs on production, etc. Axel E gives otherwise that the Ferlach makers devised the numbering scheme on their own & it was their house/factor number? For now I don't subscribe to that.
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One sees that reverse C - C stamp quite often sometimes along w/ the letters St. on Johann Sigott's wares:    I'll look thru other Ferlach maker images to see what I can find. Cheers, Raimey rse
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