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Mark,
It happened as you had said with me regarding the house being paid for and the kids gone. As the Merkel ad used to say, "take your yield to the field". I certainly did!
My SxS's were purchased for my love and enjoyment of them, without any regard for sale or profit. After my passing, my son can decide if SxS's suit him.
Karl

Note however P&V literature on their website,

Master gunsmiths Messrs. Perugini and Visini, have been building hand-crafted quality Shotguns and Rifles since the 1960s working along side Daniele Perazzi.

Name recognition through competition and performance. A reputation earned is priceless and saying, "Its as good as a Perazzi." is music to his ears in more ways than one.

Every other high end Italian gunmaker also worked alongside Daniele - how could they not? They all live in the same town.

I continue to enjoy 16, 20 & 28ga RBLs. Sorry to hear the company is changing direction, but I expect they will continue to service & provide parts in future. Parts have always been a problem for the Parker Repros and I understand parts are even getting hard to find for the BSS.

You're missing my point altogether. They're making a specific point of associating their name with that of Perazzi.

Why?

Worldwide familiarity with and recognition of, that name.

John, I don't actually care if you are sober or not, as long as the point is valid.

But, not even considering new CSMC inventory, the used CSMC stuff on the "usual suspect" gun websites is positively stagnant, and unmoving. You can expand that comment to bunches of different SXS guns of all makes, if you include 12s. A few gunshops have been turning away 12 gauge SXS trade-in guns.
I don't recall a time in my life where the same 12 gauge doubles had been sitting in inventory somwhere for most of a decade.

Except, now.

Best,
Ted

Oh, I was sober. It was just a little self-deprecating turn of the word. Be assured, Ted, I knew you did not care. Whatever.

There may not be enough energy in this market to get some renewed interest in the CSMC guns. Lord knows things have slowed down a LOT for this stuff and may slow further yet.

I think there are probably less than 5K serious double gun enthusiasts in the US. Maybe a lot less. When you start considering the point of saturation for that small of a market, then also considering where all the RBL's, A10's, and Invernesses are supposed to go, the picture does start to become less rosy than I may have first thought.

I think I'm going to let Tony Galazan worry about it.
JR

probably gas up and pee at the same gas station...

I doubt it is the same town. The Perazzi factory is not in Gardone. It is about an hour's drive away in Botticino, less if you drive like an Italian though.

Been to both places several times and most likely will go again, for the guns, the food and the wine.

Not unusual for co-workers in the gun trade to part and the employee open his own business. It was commonplace in the English gun trade. No reason for it to be different in the Italian. Indeed, Daniele worked in a small shop from the age of 14, learning the trade. At age 18 he started his own business and started to make guns under his own name.

He was partnered with Ivo Fabrii for about a year, when Fabrii left and started his own business. Even such a notable as Ennio Mattarelli was working with the two when the first Perazzi competition gun was designed and born. Mattarelli took it to the '64 Olympics in Tokyo and set a new world record and took the gold in that event.

It is healthy for apprentices to work their way up in the business and eventually leave for greener pastures, IMO, though it must cause the business' owner some consternation. Without that, the wonderful Fabrii guns would not be.

SRH