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#478267 - 04/20/17 10:39 AM Looking for an English trigger guard
bsteele Offline
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Registered: 01/28/02
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Loc: Sullivan, IN
I'm putting a pretty nice 16ga made by Westley Richards back together and I need a trigger guard. It is a straight grip stock double trigger gun from the mid 1880's. Engraving would be nice, but if not I can have some added.

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Bryndon
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#478280 - 04/20/17 11:27 AM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: bsteele]
pod Offline
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Registered: 08/13/09
Posts: 416
Connecticut shotgun New Britain Conn. has them in there catalog.

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#478303 - 04/20/17 02:58 PM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: bsteele]
bsteele Offline
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Loc: Sullivan, IN
I'm aware of those. The ones I've seen are cast steel and I'm concerned they might not take a charcoal blue? NECG has machined ones, but I'm kinda hoping to find one with engraving already on it and maybe some patina. I know it's a long shot, but I can hope can't I?

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#478334 - 04/20/17 08:51 PM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: bsteele]
LeFusil Offline
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Loc: Utah
Originally Posted By: bsteele
I'm aware of those. The ones I've seen are cast steel and I'm concerned they might not take a charcoal blue? NECG has machined ones, but I'm kinda hoping to find one with engraving already on it and maybe some patina. I know it's a long shot, but I can hope can't I?


They were pretty much all cast steel when your gun was made. The steel used to make the furniture on these guns was usually cast from the collected metal shavings from machining, filing, etc. You don't have to charcoal blue the trigger guard anyway, a quality hot blue on the guard, top lever, floor plate will do just fine and be completely appropriate.

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#478403 - 04/21/17 06:39 PM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: bsteele]
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Registered: 01/09/02
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Loc: often in Traverse City MI
Call Hampel's Gun Shop in Traverse City, MI. (231) 946-5509. They have literally many thousands of gun parts. Joe is the parts guy. I gave them a non-functional sxs with such a trigger guard to part out within the last month. I bet Joe can find you one at a decent price.

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#478424 - 04/21/17 09:53 PM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: bsteele]
bsteele Offline
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Registered: 01/28/02
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Loc: Sullivan, IN
Thanks! I will call them tomorrow

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#478451 - 04/22/17 09:57 AM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: bsteele]
SDH-MT Offline
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Registered: 07/29/05
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Loc: Montana
The originals were forged steel, not cast. Modern ones should be forged as well, or cold stamped.
Good luck finding an original, sounds like you've got a great lead. I have a few nice new ones from the sixties, but i think they are all single trigger?
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#478462 - 04/22/17 11:44 AM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: SDH-MT]
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Originally Posted By: SDH-MT
The originals were forged steel, not cast. Modern ones should be forged as well, or cold stamped.
Good luck finding an original, sounds like you've got a great lead. I have a few nice new ones from the sixties, but i think they are all single trigger?


Huh. That's a new one. I've never seen forgings or cold stamped parts have so many inclusions and imperfections like most trigger guards tangs do. Hmmm. Or when they break....the exposed steel grain looks awfully like cast steel.

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#478545 - 04/23/17 05:57 PM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: bsteele]
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No wonder they broke…I don't remember ever seeing inclusions or imperfection, most break at the screw hole from ham handed removal. But you've probably seen many more than I.
Lynton McKenzie showed me raw forgings from the 19 century and how the guard return was sliced, with a chisel off of the bow in front of the tang. I've got several cold forged brand new guards here probably from Austria or Germany circa 1960s(?) made the same way.
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www.finegunmaking.com

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#478577 - 04/24/17 07:57 AM Re: Looking for an English trigger guard [Re: SDH-MT]
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Cast or not cast, Tony's guards are used by professional stockers.

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