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Top gunmakers have gone over to state of the art CNC and EDM machines, check out the Purdey, Westley Richards and Holland videos for confirmation.

And after they are done with the space age machines they resort to 16the century tinpot technology to fix useless ribs.

Alex Martin had the right idea, do away with all ribs. His ribless guns were built by Powell and as one of the Powells wrote, it saved a quarter of a pound from the muzzle end of the guns. Ribless doubles have no inaccessible nooks for rust to work unseen.

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Stan raised an interesting point about top competition gunners using guns with ribs. It also raises another point: when was the last time a champion competitor won a national or international competition using a SXS??

I'd wager that the last major open shotgunning competition (not restricted to S x Ss) won with a S x S was won by Billy Perdue, of pigeon shooting fame. mel5141 could probably tell us the exact last championship Billy won, as the two were close friends for many years. Billy passed in 1997, but was a powerhouse on the clay ranges and live bird shoots around the world. He held many national records.

In an interview, Billy said that pigeon shooting was a game of elevation, which is why he favored the S x S for it. As I understood it, he believed the two barrels gave his peripheral vision a clearer idea of where he was, elevation-wise, as he focused hard on the pigeon.

SRH

A ribless sxs is hideous. Next in line would be one with a swamped rib. Aesthetics don't matter to some, but only some odd functionality advantage. These shooters are who these guns, without ribs or swamped ribs, were intended for.
JR

dla (sic), a gun with a 10" LOP is probably much too long for you, and is catching on your armpit.

Have a couple inches trimmed off and try again.

Owners of Manufrance Ideals don't consider their swamped ribbed guns as "hideous" or lacking "aesthetics."
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Ted today shooters use guns with porting all the time. Cutts was the easiest way to both reduce felt recoil, change chokes and reduce muzzle jump. I knew several Skeet shooters who had custom made Cutts Expansion chambers made with the slots angled and more on the top areas instead of to the sides. With them doubles in Skeet were faster because they had less muzzle climb to bring down into line with the second bird. Angled slots towards the front also made the muzzle a brake which reduced rearward motion. The fellow who designed it worked for IBM and his buddy the machinist worked for Lear Jet. They were precision made and the design did work very well. They explained that they could reduce the expansion chamber diameter to almost normal size of the barrel but not wanting other to notice their custom design they kept them the same size as the Cutts. I did find the noise to be slightly louder than the Cutts. They later changed the shape of their gas slots and claimed that it was better than the Cutts.

So Cutts might not appeal to your esthetic views but they did serve a real interest. They just ruin the straight lines of a barrel.

Of course they don't.
JR

I'm not so sure that ribs have any more to do with shooting than these things have to do with excelling at professional sports.

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