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I recently purchased a 12 ga. Simson (made for Ivers Johnson). It's a cute little gun and I'm looking forward to chasing woodcock and partridge with it next fall. In the meantime I would like to learn a little more about it. Is there a way to identify the year and model from the serial number? The number on it is 25669. Since I'm brand new to the world of Simsons, any information is helpful. Have any reference books been written for Simsons?
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Wow! How much do I owe you for all of this information. Thanks!!
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Jeff, I also have a Simson that was sold by Iver-Johnson Sporting Goods. It is a petite 20ga ejector gun that is near new, probably sat in a gun cabinet most of its life. Cornell Publications has a Iver-Johnson Sporting Goods catalog that show the various grades they sold made by Somson. I my memory is correct it is from the early to mid 20s, I was able to identify my gun from the catalog.
I learn something every day, and a lot of times it's that what I learned the day before was wrong
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James, thanks for the tip. I ordered something last night, but I think it was the history of Simson. I'll check out the catalog.
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Also, last night I searched several old "threads" and I noticed that someone that goes by Raimey (ellenbrs) seems to know a lot about these old guns. Unfortunately I was not able to send him a "PM" because it's full. Does anyone know how to get ahold of him?
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Here's the only picture that I have right now. It has an aftermarket Miller trigger.
Last edited by Jeff S; 01/24/17 10:34 PM.
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Jeff S, Raimey is very helpful I'm sure he will respond to a pm request from you, unless he has gone off somewhere on a job, then he will likely respond when he returns. Mike
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Yes, Raimey has been very helpful. I sent him pictures of the "proof stamps" and he has determined that it's a model 73E that was manufactured between 1920 and 1923. That sounds great to me. I'll keep doing research and hope for a few woodcock next fall.
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Interesting S&Co. stamp which I assume is an acronym for Simson & Co. and I'd say suggests that Simson was having to roll their own after WWI until an inland source could be found. Simsons wearing serialization in the 27k range are dated 1925 and I'm not just sure of how many examples they were rolling out each year, but I'd hazard a guess for the date between 1920 & early 1923. Not sure which Suhl H mechanic used the script H or he may have been a subcontractor. Proper images by the way. Cheers, Raimey rse
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