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Originally Posted By: keith
[quote=King Brown]I guess you're right about high-fives "Mission Accomplished," Ken---if the Middle East slaughter with ISIS et al after that doesn't count or didn't happen, eh?


Now King Brown, the one-man Obama Admiration Club, is blaming Bush for the rise of ISIS.

As I said before bad things happen when we put interest of certain country in the Middle East above our own. Hussain did not attack us and kept fundamentalists under control. In Syria minorities like Christians were protected by secular government lead by Assad. We need to stop getting involved in Middle Eastern crisis. We only make things worse not better. By the way you have voted for the worst president we ever had. Not once but twice.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister

Now King Brown, the one-man Obama Admiration Club, is blaming Bush for the rise of ISIS.

As I said before bad things happen when we put interest of certain country in the Middle East above our own. Hussain did not attack us and kept fundamentalists under control. In Syria minorities like Christians were protected by secular government lead by Assad. We need to stop getting involved in Middle Eastern crisis. We only make things worse not better. By the way you have voted for the worst president we ever had. Not once but twice.


King's a Canadian, JM. He didn't vote....

Hey! Wait a second. He would have voted Democrat. A little thing like citizenship wouldn't get in the way of that. Hell, dead people vote for Dems.


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I was referring to Ked. He voted for Bush twice. Part of the reason I voted for Trump was he eliminated Jeb Bush his Neocon buddies and moved to side lines Dick Chaney and his annoying daughter. He said he will put America fist and take care of Americans if he does I will gladly vote for him again. I want American politicians to put Americans fist that is what they were elected to do. [censored] the rest of the world.

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The middle east started going hard core Islamist after Saddam was brought down. Who was president then?


Life is too short to have a 'hate on' for so many things or people. Isn't it?
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You really seem to have a lot of problems using the "Quote" function Jagermeister. It is really complicated. It takes an I.Q. of about 45 to master it, so you're almost there.

I'm surprised that you aren't doing more of your tire-kicking today. Did they throw you out of your local gun shop for drooling on the counter and being annoying?

Originally Posted By: dal
The middle east started going hard core Islamist after Saddam was brought down. Who was president then?


Your dwarf buddy dla (sic), also known as Dopey when he worked for Walt Disney, apparently wasn't tall enough to see the rise of radical Islam when they bounced the Shah out of Iran or when the radical Islamists took those hostages for 444 days when Jimmy Carter was President.



A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: dal
The middle east started going hard core Islamist after Saddam was brought down. Who was president then?


Really Dal? Was Al Qaeda attacking the US through the 1990's and up to 2001 just kinda nibbling at the edges of extremism?


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My opinion here of Clinton was as an unsavoury candidate, James. As a liberal I couldn't vote Liberal in our federal election because they were already dickering with big business how to lobby their expected new government before the election. My conservative friends voted against conservative Harper for his authoritarianism. Out-of-patience Americans voted similarly against their chosen leaders. Voter preference isn't a sure thing.

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laugh King, I meant had you been able to vote in 2008 and 2012, I was making the educated guess, given your vocalizations here in the past, that your vote would have gone to Obama.


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Originally Posted By: dal
The middle east started going hard core Islamist after Saddam was brought down. Who was president then?


Islamic Fundamentalist uprisings have been occurring for hundreds of years. Five things have really intensified them in the 20th Century.

Oil wealth. Allowing Saudi Arabia and others to fund these movements.

Establishment of Israel. Providing a focus not only on the Jews, but their Western supporters.

Russian invasion of Afghanistan. It created a massive group of trained fighters as well as an ideological structure.

Modern jet-age transportation and the rise of Leftist concepts of Globalization. Making it easier to spread the ideology World-Wide.

The Internet. Facilitating communication.

Take these five things and apply them to ancient, expansionist religious beliefs that are taken literally and that totally support subjugation of non-believers and you have our current situation.

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Definitely. A lot of sentiment here from the civil struggles, the country giving him twice a mandate, easily the biggest mainstream political injection of hope in my career, a black in the White House. I never dreamed of it in my lifetime. Nothing has shaken my faith in Americans. I've said it often, "Americans always get it right over time." The near future is not darkness but shadow. Reason will prevail.

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