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I could always cock "IOne" hammer as quickly as I can push off a safety, quicker than any safety other than a tang safety. I have small hands though with a short thumb so do not feel safe trying to thumb back two at the same time. Consequently although I admire the beauty & lines of a good hammer double I have done the vast majority of my hunting with hammerless guns.
Safety is for the most part a matter of the shooter rather than the gun. I have to date never had a hammerless "Jar Off" though I do realize it has happened on occasion. I once while navigating a rather steep hillside stepped on a rock which rolled & I went down to the ground & slammed my hammerless Lefever real hard, it didn't go off.
Personally I will never carry a gun open except on a very limited basis. This might entail if should happen to meet another hunter/s I might open the gun as we approached out of courtesy. I can very easily had I taken the above described tumble with my gun broken open it could very easily have put a tremendous twisting strain on the barrel which could have caused severe damage. Something to think about. "IF" I have to navigate an area through which I consider it unsafe to do so with a loaded & closed gun, I unload & reclose the gun. When I get safely through the area I then reload.
The unexpected is of course what we have to take into account. The above instance of the rolling rock is an example. It occurred one day while I was trying to navigate into position to pot a squirrel for the pot & was intent on looking up in the tree. I generally squirrel hunted with a 22LR but on this particular day had carried the Lefever for some reason.
It did however reaffirm my belief that a Lefever is not particularly susceptible to jarring off with their top hung sears & that a gun is not near so susceptible to being damaged when closed as when open. Take all this for whatever its worth to you, it didn't cost you anything.


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Hey, fun post! I use mine for hunting, but also for pasture clays with my kids. They sure are a hoot to hunt with. Anyway, here's mine:

12b James Harkom



16ga Carl Glouch (Made by Franz Soda)



16b D. Gotobed (damascus bbls)



12ga Siace 350G (this is a self cocking ejector gun)



12ga Bernadelli Italia



12b Samuel B. Allport



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A Joseph Harkom pinfire. So far, huns, sharptails, pheasant, and badger. Who knows it's story in the 150 years before I owned it ?


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I have a 12 gauge Husqvarna M51. I like it a lot, but I can't cock both hammers at once. Are some guns easier to do that with?
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Originally Posted By: JNW
I have a 12 gauge Husqvarna M51. I like it a lot, but I can't cock both hammers at once. Are some guns easier to do that with?
Regards,
Jeff


certainly- part of it is the stiffness of the spring - and i personally think the ones with higher spurs make it easier - for both the grip and the leverage. My Clabrough is an early number is the later low hammer design - its a wider action, being a 10 and not a lot of spur poking up - that one is always one at a time. the picture angle is a little low- but the spurs start near the level of top tang and barely clear the height of the short top lever



In contrast, my 12 bore Wm Moore & Grey is a light gun with a narrow wrist and higher spurs and a longer top lever- easily both at once



If I remember right - Bill's H&H is a stiff one - I don't think I can do that one both at once

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My experience in general is that non rebounding hammers are easier to cock. The various makers of all hammer guns seem to have different cocking ease.

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Mine works fine on second season doves:



And on Wood ducks:



I do not know who built it but it is badged to a Christchurch, NZ hardware store. It has Birmingham proofs...Geo

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Nice duck blind Geo., looks like you're not afraid to rough it a little.

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Thank all for your posts. Those at great guns.
Question for Daryl. Can you show us how you make the pinfire cartridges?
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It's nice seeing all those hammerguns out in the field.


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