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Has anyone seen this type of Flues marking error before? I messaged the owner and he said it is definitely a 20ga. and the numbers match. Water table shows 16ga. special.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Item/600405354

Strange.

Looks like a barrel retrofit.

Double stamped on the barrels.
All my Fluesettes serial numbers always look the same on both surfaces.

First thing I would do is have him put a 20 shell into the gun. More than one 16 has been listed and sold as a 20 on Gunbroker. Most by mistake, but a few intentional. A 20 is far easier to sell than a 16 to most buyers. After all everyone knows they don't sell 16 shells anymore. And returning a gun listed as 20 which is a 16 is a real hassle. Been there and done that.

Funny how many photos are cropped to not show stuff I'd like to see. Like the choke markings on the barrels. There is one gun on Gunbroker which shows multiple closeups of the sides of the stock and barrels but zero full pictures, no views of the receiver and no view of anything where you could judge wood to metal fit. Worse you can not figure out what model the gun is based off the listing and that makes it impossible to figure out if the gun is worth anything or just scrap. Funny how bad photos tell you as much as good photos sometimes.

Looks like a fairly high condition Flues 16-gauge Field Grade to me --



Ithaca Gun Co. was building some very light weight 16-gauges in those years before WW-I --



Picture 12 goes to the front edge of the barrel flats, and there are no choke markings. What I find odd about the gun is that the grip has the coarse flat-topped checkering and the forearm has finer pointed up checkering? Perhaps an original 16-gauge gun had a set of 20-gauge barrels and forearm added at some point in time.

Bet its a 16ga...Geo

Could be Geo. But the heavy stamping bugs me. And, the splotchy coloring where the hand typically carries says "Head and Shoulders" to me as well.
And, as Dave pointed out, that ain't S model forend checkering.

I have a few original condition Fluesies, and I hate rubba dubs, so, Buyer beware.

I sent the seller a request that he would try to fit a 16 gauge shell in the chamber.
Will let you know the response
Mike

UPDATE!!!!!!

I don�t have a 16 gauge shell handy but you may be right. The owner said it is a 20 Ga. I�m going to take the auction down until I verify.

UPDATE TO UPDATE
Now auction changed to 16 GAUGE
Minimum Bid
$899.00

I doubt this is an original 1911- after aprox Ithaca added the set screw at the rear area of the forearm, and the fotos show this set screw- of course, the forearm on the gun as shown may be a replacement, and not origianl to the gun. A serial number check in Walt Snyder's Ithaca reference book would clarify this- nice looking Flues, regardless of gauge.

Might explain the two differing checkering patterns on the grip and forearm.

Thanks for all of the help gentlemen!
I didn't catch the checkering. Some of my Flues have flat and some pointed up. It didn't click that this one had both.