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King Brown #461955 11/11/16 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted By: King Brown
....Americans who fled to Canada during the Vietnam war made Canada a better place, significantly better in some circumstances....
....There's nothing positive in citizens despairing of their country to the point of leaving....

....Six Americans emailed yesterday they will make Nova Scotia their permanent home. We'll welcome them, gratefully, too.

I too am so upset with the Tuesday's vote, that I'm entitled to have things both ways. You seem to be advocating for emotionally driven decisions. It shouldn't be necessary, but you should be reminded that when obama policy, yes policy, was criticized around these parts, you continually referred to the will of the people as justification.

Is a two month a year summer cabin considered a 'permanent' home. If you are any kind of friend of the double gun, your 'buddies' homes would look like hunting cabin on adjoining acreage, maybe 30 or 40 thousand combined? When you and your 'buddies' clear out and head to Fl in July, you could hand over the keys to your 'unrulies' on the forum. We'll call it the annual fall NS climate change summit....and duck hunt. Don't forget to leave a big old stack of fire wood and top off the heating fuel before you folks hit the road.

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Aren't decisions based on emotions, craig? Americans voted for change, with poisonous consequences for the future. The country's split along the racial, rural-urban divide as it's ever been. Americans chose between the most-disliked candidates in history, a greedy woman who would have continued manipulation of the electorate for the Establishment, and a vile man who promised an end to cozy Washington, wreck it absolutely and start again.

Trump, Obama, Bush were the people's choice for all that, and exit polls reveal that millions held their noses with Trump, evangelicals surprisingly to me. I've been on this forum long enough to know members would have preferred as president someone not accused of sexual assault of 12 women, fined $300,000 for using "illegals" to build Trump Tower, cited for discrimination against people of colour, facing tax fraud charges in Mexico, made derogatory comments about women, Mexicans, Muslims, first candidate in 40 years to refuse to release his income tax returns, and creatively lost $918,000,000 in 1995 to avoid paying taxes for nearly 20 years.

No member of this forum would have chosen Trump if their electoral system had provided a responsible alternative. All have my sympathy.




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Looks like King Brown plans to continue to use falsehoods in order to denigrate the only logical choice we had for protecting our gun rights in this election. Trump was not fined $300,000 for using illegals to work on Trump Tower in the 1980's as King reports. Trump was sued by a labor union after one of his demolition sub-contractors hired illegal Polish workers. Trump did not hire those workers. They were hired by the sub-contractor after Trump had contracted his services for demolition. Trump testified that he had no idea the workers were illegal immigrants. He did end up setting the lawsuit for a sealed and undisclosed amount. Here's a link to the story from the Christian Science Monitor:

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/De...Was-Rubio-right

Trump has employed thousands of U.S. workers including many women and minorities. Hillary Clinton has employed only personal servants, security, and campaign staff, and paid women much less than men for doing the same work at the Clinton Foundation.

Funny how King wants to crow about a dozen women who came out of the woodwork only a couple weeks before the election to make obviously scripted and unfounded and unproven charges of sexual assault against Trump, yet he continues to totally ignore that stained blue dress with Bill Clinton's DNA on it from the sexual act he lied to the American people about... along with all of the other women who claim that Bill raped them. In a most blatant insult to women, Hillary defended those actions by smearing the reputations of the women involved. Why won't King mention how Hillary tried to blame the 12 year old girl for the actions of the man she defended after he raped her and nearly killed her?

Trump admitted using the tax laws as written to avoid paying income taxes after taking massive losses in his business. Most here have also used the tax code to avoid paying income taxes whenever possible. I doubt if anyone here refused their mortgage interest deduction or refused to claim their children as exemptions. The U.S. Supreme Court has ruled that we are not obligated to pay a penny more in taxes that we owe under the law. Trump did not produce his tax returns, but he has been audited by the IRS every year for decades. If he was breaking the law, the IRS would have done something about it. But King Brown still will not address the fact that Obama is the only president since Truman who still has not released his educational records, which would likely show that he took aid for foreign students. There would be only two reasons to do that... because he defrauded the system, or because he actually was a foreign student.

We don't want your sympathy King. We want you to quit lying to us in order to advance your Socialist and anti-2nd Amendment agenda.


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

King Brown #461964 11/11/16 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Aren't decisions based on emotions, craig? Americans voted for change, with poisonous consequences for the future. The country's split along the racial, rural-urban divide as it's ever been. Americans chose between the most-disliked candidates in history, a greedy woman who would have continued manipulation of the electorate for the Establishment, and a vile man who promised an end to cozy Washington, wreck it absolutely and start again.

Trump, Obama, Bush were the people's choice for all that, and exit polls reveal that millions held their noses with Trump, evangelicals surprisingly to me. I've been on this forum long enough to know members would have preferred as president someone not accused of sexual assault of 12 women, fined $300,000 for using "illegals" to build Trump Tower, cited for discrimination against people of colour, facing tax fraud charges in Mexico, made derogatory comments about women, Mexicans, Muslims, first candidate in 40 years to refuse to release his income tax returns, and creatively lost $918,000,000 in 1995 to avoid paying taxes for nearly 20 years.

No member of this forum would have chosen Trump if their electoral system had provided a responsible alternative. All have my sympathy.


What a bunch of "Butthurt Pap". Obama has divided America along racial lines, all according to Soviet doctrine. The dislike of Trump only started after Trump won the nomination and the psychopolitical demonization machine started in on him. You're pushing another mythological narrative, bleating along with the millions of other statist religious dupes. How many times has Trump been accused and charged with assault before the election? It's amazing that sociopathic zealots like you actually think you can influence anyone. I mean besides your fellow religious dupes, minions, and useful idiots. People chose Trump because of the issues, not because of all your sociopathic nincompoopery.

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Dave Weber #461966 11/11/16 01:21 PM
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Poisonous, divide, disliked, greedy, manipulation, vile, wreck, assault, derogatory (did I miss any?)

Never mind your sympathy, King. I need a donut!

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King Brown #461967 11/11/16 01:25 PM
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ahh King, I see you come out of the self induced "unelectible" and Hillary in a "landslide" delusional coma to regurgitate more lies and you useless condescension !

Amazing that you still think you know Americans-or people on this forum who did NOT "hold their nose" to save the Republic and happy we did !



Bet your gonna just love the first 100 days too,some highlights for ya:

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/press-relea...-american-vote1

" on the first day, I will take the following five actions to restore security and the constitutional rule of law:

FIRST, cancel every unconstitutional executive action, memorandum and order issued by President Obama
SECOND, begin the process of selecting a replacement for Justice Scalia from one of the 20 judges on my list, who will uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States
THIRD, cancel all federal funding to Sanctuary Cities
FOURTH, begin removing the more than 2 million criminal illegal immigrants from the country and cancel visas to foreign countries that wont take them back
FIFTH, suspend immigration from terror-prone regions where vetting cannot safely occur. All vetting of people coming into our country will be considered extreme vetting.

" Repeal and Replace Obamacare Act. Fully repeals Obamacare and replaces it with Health Savings Accounts, the ability to purchase health insurance across state lines, and lets states manage Medicaid funds. Reforms will also include cutting the red tape at the FDA: there are over 4,000 drugs awaiting approval, and we especially want to speed the approval of life-saving medications.

"A middle-class family with 2 children will get a 35% tax cut. The current number of brackets will be reduced from 7 to 3, and tax forms will likewise be greatly simplified. The business rate will be lowered from 35 to 15 percent, and the trillions of dollars of American corporate money overseas can now be brought back at a 10 percent rate.

FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205
SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership
THIRD, I will direct my Secretary of the Treasury to label China a currency manipulator
FOURTH, I will direct the Secretary of Commerce and U.S. Trade Representative to identify all foreign trading abuses that unfairly impact American workers and direct them to use every tool under American and international law to end those abuses immediately
FIFTH, I will lift the restrictions on the production of $50 trillion dollars worth of job-producing American energy reserves, including shale, oil, natural gas and clean coal.
SIXTH, lift the Obama-Clinton roadblocks and allow vital energy infrastructure projects, like the Keystone Pipeline, to move forward

SEVENTH, cancel billions in payments to U.N. climate change programs and use the money to fix Americas water and environmental infrastructure

you can go back to your imaginary 6 friends that are leaving America and see if they will listen

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Dave Weber #461969 11/11/16 01:38 PM
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Don't worry about #7. Global leader and powerhouse Canada will step in and fill that void.


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King Brown #461974 11/11/16 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted By: King Brown
Aren't decisions based on emotions, craig? Americans voted for change, with poisonous consequences for the future. The country's split along the racial, rural-urban divide as it's ever been....

....No member of this forum would have chosen Trump if their electoral system had provided a responsible alternative....

Awe c'mon King, didn't I write policy? In the past when policy 'differences' were 'discussed', didn't you tell me to suck-it-up-buttercup, the people have spoken?

Divide? This morning, bo's press parrot josh something or another said, the prez stands by everything he said on the campaign trail. Do you think that's the kind of legacy an upper third best prez ever was supposed to leave, a loosing campaigner?

Okay, I'll scale back, twenty thousand acres? I've been thinking seriously about this. Leave some good breakfast sausage in the freezer. I'll rustle up some eggs, and me-n-Jake jr are gonna eat like kings, pardon me, before we head out into the marsh.

In the primaries when the 'proper' candidates like jeb wilted, I could bet you would've liked to see that kind of formidable door mat to go up against your gal. Any of the other failed sixteen would've given me more than enough policy opposition to your gal.

The only thing I was looking for in Trump was to see if it was possible not to get borked. All the bimbos, trump u, tax, etc., amazingly little for such a public figure, weren't able to break through his ability to wag the news around. Sure, it was a time of change, but isn't it always. Who took the ball, defined it, and ran with it?

Does your vile failure of a President Elect really bother you that much, or is it the positive enthusiasm radiating out of the meetings with the heads of Congress? Why do you keep trying to bork him? The election's over, why not study up, and when his staff and cabinet starts to form, let's bork them instead?

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Clearly, you don't think you've been borked. Your Tea Party wanted Trump, pushed GOP to disintegration while its sanctioned leaders said no way they could support him, as did half the electorate who knew a vulgar greaser when they saw one.

Half the electorate, craig. A dream president wouldn't have a mandate to do what he promised with your racial, urban-rural and cultural divisions rending the country.

Electing a bigot, misogynist, racist in a constitutionally multi-racial, multi-religious, multi-political society to "make America great again" simply can't happen.

So, yes, I'm bothered tremendously that this predatory grab-em-by-the-pussy president is now the face of the United States America to the world. It's not fair the opposing half must suffer the embarrassment and humiliation.

To understand what has happened to Trumpers is to believe the unbelievable.

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Keep your sympathy Mr. Brown. I don't want it. I've watched you pontificate about American politics for months now, as if your opinion was fact. You were so far off the mark, why would anyone pay attention to you now? Although you claim to love the US, your disdain shows through most of your posts. I don't consider myself one of the "lower classes" (your words, which really show a lot about you) and I didn't vote against my best interests.

I guess what I'm trying to say, with all due respect and I mean this in the nicest possible way, is I really wish you'd just STFU.


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