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Lonesome, we didn't lay a paw on bingo. It was the biggest-ever public campaign here. We had all the churches on our side against casinos, including the Roman Catholic archbishop and two bishops. I mentioned the Baptists because it was the first time they became actively involved together in a controversial public issue. Nothing wrong with bingo!

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Gee King, with you leading the campaign to stop casino gambling in Nova Scotia, how is it possible that your side lost?

Wait, I know... the same way the American gun owners and the NRA would have lost if they simply conceded ground to Obama and the anti-gunners had they followed your idiotic advice.

Do you remember this sage advice you gave us King?

Originally Posted By: King Brown
I'd feel better about 2nd protection if our side stopped shooting itself in the foot with the makes-no-difference between 10 and larger magazines, cross-messaging of the worst kind. The antis are saying if the difference is 6-8 seconds what's the problem of excluding the 10-plus?



Originally Posted By: King Brown
I'd have asked for LaPierre's head if I were a NRA member. Here's Chief Executive Wayne LaPierre calling for armed police in all US schools within weeks as the country and world mourned the second-deadliest school shooting inn US history: "The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun." Instead of showing sensitivity and empathy to grieving publics, the US gun-rights lobby risked appearing selfish and callous when a modicum of respect could have strengthened confidence in the association. Organizations don't get it right all the time but this was perfectly stupid. Ask anyone in the lobbying business.


Originally Posted By: King Brown
No more ludicrous than an armed guard in every school. Not possible to pay for it in the first place. Impractical in the second. All the guns in the world can't protect against bad guys from doing bad things. Fort Hood.


Except that Ft. Hood was a Gun Free Zone thanks to Liberal Left Democrats! After Maj, Nidal Hasan killed 13 soldiers and wounded 30 more in an Islamic terror attack, he was finally subdued with... a gun.

And here's a quote by King Brown copied and pasted verbatim from his post # 308159 on 1/8/13 where he lambasted the NRA and suggested that they should consider the massive gun control Obama was attempting to shove down our throats as he exploited a tragedy to infringe upon our Constitutional Rights:

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"Your messages appear as from one who hasn't been involved directly in action of what it takes to beat back grabbers other than a NRA membership. (And that antagonizing NRA comment while the nation mourning was no service to our cause, as I said here at the time. Better that the NRA would consider what Obama proposing and it would respond in good time in the country's best interests etc.) Unwarranted inflaming of public opinion is a mistake, and in confrontations of this kind, it's the faux pas that can kill you. Some November dandies come to mind."




A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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"Lying Crooked King"

My PM box here has several inquires about King Brown,all say the same thing,who is this guy and is he crazy ?

Nope,King Brown has been lying and BS on here for years,Keith,CB,Craig,Jim and I have been having the same battles over and over again with "Lying Crooked King",who has this delusional view that his "new job" (his words) is to try and tamp down-by whatever lies and BS he can come up with,anything that is against the Progressive march to a world order posted on here. That,like King BS on here is thankfully failed and,like his boy Oabama,now circling the drain for the final flush !

Lying Crooked King Brown the laughing stock of liberalism !

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Originally Posted By: Dave K
"Lying Crooked King"

My PM box here has several inquires about King Brown,all say the same thing,who is this guy and is he crazy ?

Nope,King Brown has been lying and BS on here for years,Keith,CB,Craig,Jim and I have been having the same battles over and over again with "Lying Crooked King",who has this delusional view that his "new job" (his words) is to try and tamp down-by whatever lies and BS he can come up with,anything that is against the Progressive march to a world order posted on here. That,like King BS on here is thankfully failed and,like his boy Oabama,now circling the drain for the final flush !

Lying Crooked King Brown the laughing stock of liberalism !


At least it would be legit. if he was a U S Citizen. He not and IMO has no right to complain about our laws anymore then I have a right to complain about Canadian Laws.
He would do us all a favor if he'd Just Shut the Hell up! He's been on my ignore list for quite some time which ought to tell you how much I value his "opinion"!
Jim


The 2nd Amendment IS an unalienable right.
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Any possibility you guys are whistling past the cemetery? May I anticipate your smiles come November? You're presiding gleefully and consciously over the wrecking of a great Party. Even the Kochs are spending solely to hold the Senate.

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Its shame he ruined what was a good thread-not surprising thou Jim, and it just proves Old Colonel post that the left can NOT be trusted,like King, to keep the names of gun owners.

Thank Goodness we are not registered gun owners like in Canada and are able to protect ourselves here in America the way we want, not how Lying Crooked King thinks we should !


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How are we "presiding over the wrecking of a great Party" King?

Could it be that we support the pro-2nd Amendment candidate, and you are hoping and praying to your atheist gods that the avowed anti-gunner Hillary Clinton wins?

And why are you once again attempting to change the subject? Most somewhat normal people, when confronted with their dishonesty, either fade away or apologize and take their lumps. Others, do like Alvin Linden did, and have an extreme meltdown, and then return later under a new screen name. In his case, he returned posing as a 19 year old girl named Halleye, with the screen name of gunluvr. Here's that self-described 19 year old girl back in May of 2015 in a Memorial Day thread in Misfires telling us about enjoying his/her wife's coffee and being a combat veteran:


Originally Posted By: gunluvr
Excuse me for taking up space. I'm sitting here with a cup of my wife's excellent coffee and a little "branch water" from the Knob Creek, in it. I was just thinking about Memorial Day and realized that in all the many endeavors of my life, I never felt more kinship than when I was a combat soldier. If you were to put a soldier from every war we have fought in a room, I believe we would all be able to relate. My Dad always said (a Pacific Island Vet) "Freedom isn't free" truer words have never been spoken. To those vets that read this; "Enjoy" to those that can't... Requiescat in pace!


See King. That should make you feel better knowing you aren't the only sick puppy posting crap here and pretending to be something that you are not. Once you start telling lies, it gets awful hard to keep those stories straight. Do you recall actually admitting that you lie to advance your Liberal Left ideas King? I do, from your Misfires post #389019 on 1/2/2015:

Originally Posted By: King Brown
Since liberals are smiling and lying, and conservatives moaning and groaning as hard-done-bys, here's hoping for a happier New Year for members who learn from the liberals how to improve a country by telling little lies.

Everyone lies one way or another. It's absurd for the educated in the 21st century to believe one ideology fits all, and pure fantasy to say that one is purer, more virtuous than the others as fundamentalists everywhere do.

Liberalism in modern societies reigns because it reaches to a common empathetic, compassionate core where we measure ourselves by how well we contribute to others, a gospel of inclusiveness, not separation.

I believe a Canadian who made his mark in America, John Kenneth Galbraith: "The modern conservative is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy, that is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."

That may be a lie. Many would say it is. A lie is something we say that we know not to be true. Galbraith believed what he said. Some members believe adherents to their way of thinking do not lie but those of other ideologies do.

I believe the Iraq invasion ignited the fastest growing, fiercest and hitherto most hideous threat to Christian values in 80 years. Disagreeing doesn't make me a liar any more than other members' opinions are lies i.e. more laissez-faire, less regulation on how much and to whom each provides in taxes.

I believe as Dave Weber that disrespect, filthy language, vituperation and denunciation should have no place in Misfires. They add nothing to conversations. We are blessed that only a few of a particular bent engage in it. The Spirit flourishes. Happy New Year to all.


You can't make this shit up. I come here first for the double gun knowledge. But it is also like getting free admission to a freak show too!


A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: Dave K
Its shame he ruined what was a good thread-not surprising thou Jim, and it just proves Old Colonel post that the left can NOT be trusted,like King, to keep the names of gun owners.

Thank Goodness we are not registered gun owners like in Canada and are able to protect ourselves here in America the way we want, not how Lying Crooked King thinks we should !


This was a useful thread to discuss the American federal gun tracing system, and it almost developed into a useful discussion about American federal and state gun laws. The Canadian system has nothing to do with the topic. There is, of course, nothing wrong with a Canadian making comments about American law, but it is ethically wrong to make deliberate and knowing misstatements about the law.

Let's sum this up :

Canada: Purchasers are required to obtain a license, known as a Possession and Acquisition license (hereinafter "PAL") to purchase firearms in Canada.

United States: Federal law does not require purchasers to obtain a license to acquire or possess a firearm. Under federal law, a person must fill out a simple 4473 background check form if the transaction is going through an FFL. Otherwise, federal law does not require a license nor a background check for private transfers.

State laws on firearms purchase vary, but most do not require a license or background check to purchase a firearm. There are, however, some notable exception such as New York (requires a license to purchase a handgun; all firearms transactions must go through an FFL for a background check).

By definition, the Canadian firearms licensing system requires more bureaucracy than the United States system. Case closed

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Dave, Canada does not have a registry, data base of registered gun owners. Canada feels no need of guns for personal safety, as the US does. If it did, it would have them, from laws made in legislatures as expressions of the will of the people. Our laws are as citizens make them, same as yours. Except Americans debate tirelessly the meaning of the Second Amendment.

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Discussion of the meaning of the 2nd Amendment is not a debate. It is a full scale frontal assault on our National heritage by people who do not value America and would prefer to turn it into something else...Geo

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