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The head of ballistics & curator of the East Enterprise Double Rifle Club told me today that Ross's article was years ago. This was well before Swiss and now Olde Eynsford -which seems to be nearly identical to Curtis & Harvey #6.
I have to agree, my percussion double loves it. Haven't tried it yet in my double BPE.

Indeed, I found it the article- Summer 1995.

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Many paradoxes were never black powder guns. Holland paradox guns were regulated for a variety of charges and cordite types 28 30 33 36 and 40grains of cordite have been documented.
The unique load developed by Ross is a pretty safe load and will regulate many paradoxes with slight variations even early blackpowder paradoxes. Exploras all were originally regulated with capped bullets at 1250 and a bit of tweeking to get them right
20 bores are rare and if a Westley need a special powder for regulation 425gr bullet at 1500fps

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drhall762: The water-table should tell you a lot about the guns original proof - you may well know this.
Also found more paradox articles in DGJ, Winter 2010 & Spring 2015 by Sherman & Ross.
They both agree that a bullet 0.001-0.003" undersized is the key.
Seems H&H introduced the Paradox in 1886 (from Fosbery 1885 patent) and by 1905 Holland was offering 'magnum 12-bore & Long Range Paradox" this seem to be the time H&H went to Cordite.
Interesting a H&H Royal Grade Ejector 12-bore Paradox made in 1895 loading instructions state "3 drams no.6 powder".
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Thanks for the info. I was trying to find a master directory or even a yearly one to DGJ back issues but apparently that does not exist. I'll get these ordered if they have some in stock.

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Actually, the majority of back issues of DGJ are readily available from the publisher!

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Originally Posted By: Ron Vella
Actually, the majority of back issues of DGJ are readily available from the publisher!


I got the three ordered but I was trying to find a Master Index to all the articles from the first issue. No telling what treasures are there. Just cost prohibitive to blindly purchase all back issues.


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Mr Hall, I'm following in your tracks, trying to develop starter load info for my 12 bore double rifle. The brass cases and bullets (lead with 3 grease grooves) and loading tools were received today.

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Mr Hall, I'm following in your tracks, trying to develop starter load info for my 12 bore double rifle. The brass cases and bullets (lead with 3 grease grooves) and loading tools were received today.


I received my 3 back issues of DGJ. What a wealth of information there was in just 3 articles on the Paradox and other Bore Rifles. First thing I discovered is that brass cases are not recommended unless the gun was chambered for the thinner brass case. Paper cases like the original Paradox are the recommended case. The issues I purchased were: Summer 1995, Winter 2010 and Spring 2015. There is a part 2 to the Spring 2015 article and as soon as I can confirm when it was published I will order it. My guess would be Summer 2015 but???
There was a good discussion of bullet size and starting loads included.

By the way, I am kind of an old fart and everyone just calls me Dave.


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