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I keep a double by my bed for home defense.

I carry a double in the field behind my French Brittanys.

And while I may not particularly cherish my black plastic-stocked semi-auto AK47 I do cherish my right (and others') to own one.

Jim's Liberal manure spreader doesn't come close to spreading the pure bullshit that King Brown does. Now King is claiming that all of his anti-gun rhetoric and support for anti-gun politicians is nothing more than "reporting accurately".

It is the totality and long term persistence of King Brown's anti-gun rhetoric that shows us what he is. He used to simply slink away from his comments, or move on to another thread when things got hot for him. The memory of his most recent anti-gun statement would fade into the archives. That is why I began saving all of his anti-gun, anti-NRA, and anti-2nd Amendment posts. In spite of overwhelming evidence, and even being repeatedly caught with the smoking gun in his hands, King still insists that he is pro-gun.

An abortion doctor who has not aborted his own children cannot thus claim to be Pro-Life. So it is with King and the few guns he claims to shoot.

By his standards, he might as well say that Hillary Clinton is pro-gun too, just because she claims to respect our rights, and that she is merely "reporting accurately" when she makes her calls to restrict access to semi-auto assault style guns and to bankrupt the firearms industry via the frivolous lawsuits that were stopped by Ronald Reagan under the 1986 FOPA.

King still insists that Obama has done no harm to the 2nd Amendment despite his repeated assaults, failed legislative attempts, and Executive Actions. You might as well say that attempted murder or rape is not a crime. King apparently wants us to forget that he managed to get two Liberal Left anti-gun Justices seated on the Supreme Court, and is jockeying for an anti-gun majority since Antonin Scalia died. King's comment is not prescient. It is not accurate. And it provides cover and support for Barack Obama, the most extreme anti-gun president in our history.

My opinion that King Brown is an anti-gunner who is here to undermine our 2nd Amendment Rights is based upon King's own words and deeds. He and Ed Good have a long history of denigrating and diminishing the 2nd Amendment, the NRA, and certain guns they dislike. I have found that their own words are the most effective tool to illustrate that fact. We have a few other anti-gun trolls, but King and Ed are the most prolific.



That was one statement made by King Brown that I actually agree with. But he simply hates the culpability or accountability of being confronted with his own anti-gun words.



Wrong again King! The question is, why do certain anti-gun Nova Scotians named King Brown dismiss the graphs and statistics? Why did you keep repeating this crap when you were repeatedly shown that it was a lie? I believe everyone here knows the answer to that... Because you feel it is your duty as a good little anti-gun Liberal Left soldier to continually work to nibble at our gun rights and stab us in the back.

Once again... real Pro-Gun guys DO NOT post stuff like that on a gun enthusiast forum. Ever.

Medical mistakes have moved up to become the third leading cause of death in the U.S. behind heart disease and cancer. The numbers are far far greater than deaths from assault style rifles... which are actually lower than deaths from hammers. But you won't see King Brown or dla (sic) crying about the AMA, ObamaCare, or Home Depot. Here's your statistics on guns and homicides again King... so you can ignore it again King.

What a fraud!

Hey King, were you perchance a member of the Canadian Olympic Team in the 100 meter slink? I see you've once again slinked away from your anti-gun rhetoric so you can return later to proclaim to be a staunch pro-gunner.

To illustrate that you have many times repeated the total falsehood you wrote about the homicide rate in the U.S. compared to other developed countries, allow me to refresh your memory with this, from your post # 347338 in the "Guns and the Crime Rate" thread from December of 2013:



That was a reply to James M. (Jim), who once again took the time to correct King's repeatedly false notions that our gun culture has led to the U.S. being the most violent and murderous developed country in the world... "by wide margins" according to that post King made. This is precisely why I have learned to verify any "facts" King posts here.

Here's Ted Schefelbein also taking the time to once again correct you King.



Ted was just wasting his time, because you went on many times to repeat the same tired anti-gun propaganda used by anti-gun organizations who have to resort to outright lies to advance their agenda. Aren't you the guy who has repeatedly claimed that you have never told a lie here... a lie being something you know to not be true???

Real Pro-Gunners just don't write stuff like that. Ever! They sure as hell don't repeat it over and over after being confronted with facts from sources like the United Nations, which is hardy a bastion of individual gun rights. Nor do they go on with attempts to LULL U.S. gun owners into complacency about the relentless and ongoing threats to the 2nd Amendment made by the Anti-Gun Liberal Left:



You've repeatedly shown us your personal "opposing position" to the 2nd Amendment, the NRA, semi-auto assault style rifles, concealable guns, large cap magazines, clips, etc. Yet you still claim to be Pro-Gun. Using your logic, I suppose the serial killer Ted Bundy could have called himself pro-woman just because he hadn't strangled his mother.

I continue to keep this fraud(Brown) on my ignore list but I have to ask the question? Just what does it buy this forum letting anti-gun trolls like King and others post here? Seeing another viewpoint? All one has to do is tune into the Obama News Network and you can see the lies, exaggerations and just plain B.S reported on a daily basis.
What you Won't see on the "ONN" is anything reported that's positive or factual regarding the RTKABA and that's why gun owners forums IMO are critical to maintaining our rights.
Jim

Gun owner forums are not only critical but essential to protect our rights. They get their legitimacy and influence from a representative structure of all aspects of our fraternity, not a radical rump promoting a particular party or point of view.

Consider the consequences of the GOP under the sway of Cheney, then sliding untagged to the Tea Party, followed by Trump taking control of the GOP, the trend of modern conservatism. Making a big tent wins elections, blackballing doesn't.

"Get him outta here" isn't the American way.

bravo king, for contributing to giving this thread some positive purpose...after all, it started with the absurd premise that the rev. graham is some kind of wacko white supremacist! how weird is that?

now, consider this in regard to our Inalienable right to keep and bear arms...enter the 14th amendment...specifically, the clause guaranteeing the equal protection of law for all citizens...that clause was recently cited in a supreme court decision, whereby an ohio state law defining marriage was struck down as a violation of the 14th amendment, because same sex couple marriage was not provided equal protection of the law...

so, does it stand to reason, that if states like new york, forbid its citizens from possessing a certain class of arm, described as "assault rifles" and other states like vermont, have no such prohibition, then the citizens of new york are being excluded from their right to equal protection of the law as guaranteed by the 2nd and 14th amendment?

Ed, look at the Supreme Court 5-3 decision yesterday about abortion in Texas. And what I was quoted above: "Sure, we hold our constitutions dearly to our ideals but pro- and anti-gun control advocates use them to support opposing positions. Some of us are comforted by references to our constitutions although the evidence shows clearly that societies make of them what they will."

The Texas analogy of what states do and can't do with those "20,000 gun laws" and "inalienable rights" would seem to apply to Vermont and New York--- until the Supreme Court comes along and arbitrates on their constitutionality, finding pro and anti depending on Court and public points of view. Short answer: I don't know. The Court surprises me more often than not.

I guess when we understand that abortion is a Constitutional right, all the laws restricting luxuries like guns help us appreciate and value entitlements even more.

US state- and federal-sanctioned capital punishment, although failing in support relatively quickly, is in there, too.

I'm as conflicted as others believing in a woman's right to choose, and abhorring executions which I wouldn't do myself.

Another paradox.

While we are on thoughts to ponder and the wonderfulness of SC decisions, it strikes me that something is wildly F'd up when the SC guarantees a woman's right to choose while an Ohio court sentences a co-ed to life without parole from throwing away her newborn.

Talk about mixed messages! Which is it. Human life is sacred or not? Babies are to be cherished or thrown out?