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My favorite idea for a new gun law is to make use of a firearm in the commission any Felony punishable by the death penalty. Only issue for the jury is guilt.

Deterrent value probably is not much, but rescidivism will not be a problem..Geo

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As it's not Sunday and I'm not in Alabama, anyone care to wager how many pages of retardedness this thread will go?



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Originally Posted By: Geo. Newbern
My favorite idea for a new gun law is to make use of a firearm in the commission any Felony punishable by the death penalty. Only issue for the jury is guilt.


One appeal and get rid of them. Public execution by firing squad.
Works for me.


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It might not do much good to reintroduce the old 137 strikes and you're out law. I understand the revolving door is well funded and spinning like a top.

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Originally Posted By: rocky mtn bill
Everyone who is concerned about a lack of gun law enforcement ought to be agitating in favor of adequate staffing and funding for the agencies tasked with enforcement. Many federal agencies fail to perform their missions better because they lack adequate funding. Hamstringing an agency with inadequate funding fulfills the far right's prophecy that government is a waste of time and money.


The executive branch has a lot to say about how that money is spent. They can use the money for the Border Patrol to hire border guards or they can use it to set up a program where illegal aliens get SS numbers and work permits, "pending deportation".

They can spend money on prosecuting felons who try to beat the NICS check or they can spend money on programs for selling firearms to gunrunners for export to Mexico as in "Fast and Furious".

They can spend money on investigating urban gangs as organized crime and prosecuting them under RICO statutes. Or they can investigate George Zimmerman for shooting Trayvon Martin as Mr. Martin sat astride Zimmerman, performing a MMA ground and pound on Mr. Zimmerman's head. Or they can investigate the Feruguson police department because a White policeman shot a strong armed robber who was charging him.

Mr. Obama's Attorney General has been traveling the country, "negotiating" consent decrees with various police departments. Of course she could have used that money to help Chicago get control of its gangs. Murders are up, through May, 46% from the same period last year and up 72% from the year before that. But those Chicago cops have got Ms. Lynch looking over their shoulder as they patrol that city infested with habitual violent criminals ("thug" is now a "dog whistle" word and is politically incorrect and racist).

So I think Obama's and Lynch's priorities are the main problem, funding less so.





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Great post AmarilloMike, but rocky mtn bill's knee jerk reaction to just about any problem is even more spending by a government that has put us over $ 18 trillion in debt.

No surprise at all to see our resident anti-gun troll King Brown lamenting the fact that Republicans did not cave in and allow the Liberal Left Democrats to erode the 2nd Amendment rights of law abiding citizens again.

I called and e-mailed my Senators and Congressman to tell them that I am still not interested in giving up one shred of my Constitutional Rights because this administration refuses to deal more than pinprick blows to ISIS.

I told them that they could concentrate their efforts on restricting the Constitutional Rights of those who are actually the real problem. They could take down internet access to suspected terrorists. They could take down ISIS websites and access to online Terror Training Magazines such as "Inspire". They could force social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter to ban and remove content that recruits new home-grown terrorists. And they could violate the 4th Amendment where necessary to search the Mosques, homes, cell-phones, and computers of suspected terrorists.

I'd like to hear how the Liberal Left would respond to COMMON SENSE measures like those.

If anybody's rights ever get violated, it should be the rights of those who are posing the actual risk. Contrary to what the anti-gun troll King Brown thinks... it ain't law abiding American gun owners.



A true sign of mental illness is any gun owner who would vote for an Anti-Gunner like Joe Biden.

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Originally Posted By: Jagermeister
"Democracies make choices. Americans accept mass murder to defend an individual right to bear arms in the name of personal freedom."


Or we have mass shootings because we are no longer allowed to remove mental health cases before they start shooting. Many shooters after the fact are determined to have been on the radar but in today's society being crazy or in poor mental health is not enough to get you removed from the street. The lunnies are not just running the asylum they are not even in it anymore.

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Doing a search on Federal gun prosecutions will reveal that gun related prosecutions have been falling under Obama. Felons in possession of firearms are not being prosecuted unless they are caught in the act of committing a crime. You can check the link below about Milwaukee officials complaining the Feds are rejecting cases and how much the prosecution rates for gun crimes have fallen. There are similar stories from just about each year after Obama took office.

I'm a bit perturbed that all we hear about is expanding background checks and denying firearm purchases for those on no-fly lists, when Federal prosecutors have been instructed by the DOJ to let felons who possess firearms walk.

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And this takes us right back to my reason for starting this thread. As Biden has reported the Federal Government doesn't have the resources to prosecute law breakers. And so he and the rest of the Democrats turns right around and want more Federal gun laws enacted. Doesn't this seem like a contradiction to all of you?
It isn't and I'll state the case again. "Democrats", Socialists, Communists what ever you want to call them don't care about enforcing existing gun laws. As a matter of fact; non enforcement plays right into their hands. Their ultimate goal is universal registration and eventual confiscation to further their socialist agenda. Every socialist tyrant from Stalin to Hitler to Castro understood very well that you couldn't subjugate a population that possessed firearms and one of the first step of their regimes was to round up all privately owned firearms .
This is VERY MUCH the goal of the socialists who are now trying to complete Obama's efforts and take over the Country.
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Any one that thinks we all won't end up on the no fly list or terrorist watch list, if this goes through, never heard of the IRS. If our Canadian friends had a Bill of Rights to protect them, they might think differently.
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