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#445082 05/24/16 09:10 PM
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here is a 12 ga shotgun (Franz Jager)It is marked as a Simson Jager Patent. the double lumps are supposed to prevent side to side movement under heavy recoil and the push button where you would normally see a safety actually uncocks the mainspring. both these features are intended for double rifles according to the makers grandson. maybe solutions for non existent problems but interesting, I also just picked up a nice 16 ga Mich Pegam Ferlach SXS that has a flip up rear sight maybe for use with slugs?

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Notice the size of the hinge "pins"(actually lugs). Since they are larger, they allow the gun to stay "on face" longer, and the location, at the sides, allows a shallower action( if on a drilling, even more so). The separate cocking is a concept used on more and more modern guns, because it allows them to be carried with complete safety, even loaded.
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Mike I believe your correct. Supposedly this type of action allowed hunters in Africa to keep loaded guns in the truck safely. Cocking the mainspring is not very difficult and can be done as quickly as pushing off a safety. It is a very light 12 bore, very well fitted and put together as are most German guns. even as a medium grade gun .

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GMCS,
Safety was not only important in Africa, but everywhere. Even when I was In Germany during the 1970s "Carter's oil crisis", I participated in drive hunts with up to 50 guns and 50 drivers, safety was so important that after the kangaroo court, you may also be invited to not ever come back again.
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I have a Simson-Jaeger drilling, originally 16/65-9.3X72R, which is presently being rebuilt to 20/76-6.5X57R. The shot barrels were pitted beyond repair when I bought it, and I didn't much care for the rifle caliber.
I find the Simson-Jaeger system fascinating.

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xausa,
I predict you will be very happy with the 6.5x57R. It is a very good caliber for our part of the world, mine kills like lightning, very much like a 257 Roberts. On the other hand, I'm a devout 16ga. fan.
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I have a Mauser in 6.5X57 and another in 6.5X.257 Roberts (go figure), and they both are all that is required for deer in my neck of the woods. I have several 16 gauge drillings, but I find it increasingly difficult to locate suitable ammunition for them, whereas 20 gauge is almost as common as 12.

I grew up shooting a 16 gauge and loved its lightness and ease of carrying compared to a 12 gauge of the same model (Browning 5 shot), but years of shooting skeet made me a 20 and 28 gauge fan. My favorite dove gun is a Merkel 12 gauge 201, with 28 gauge tubes.

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It looks like it has now common safety-cocking-decicking mechanism which is neat.
As long as sliding motion is not hard to initiate that is a positive thing. It is kind of hard to move on some guns like the state of the art Sauer 404.

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Jagermeister, I am with you: hard to move thumb cocking pieces are the reason I do not like modern "safety" guns (such as Sauer 404, etc.).

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GMCS, I hope you will also show us your Mich Pegam Ferlach SXS that has a flip up rear sight. I suspect it could be meant for sniping long distance smaller fauna such as hare and fox (with shot).

With kind regards,
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