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PeteM #440467 04/03/16 07:48 AM
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Buf Sauvage:

You well know that we are overly obsessed far beyond the fine fare of our beloved mechanics. From Bernard, Mode, Guyot, etc. the more obscure the firearms merchant, the more we are consumed. And one knows this to be true when you are chasing serialization and touchmarks on wares that have more than 100 years.

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Sure, Raimey.
I was trying to put things in perspective.
E.g. even though I'd love to understand what happened to the people involved, it is as important to understand what happened to the brand itself.
We all know that the important brands have been built on a lot more than the founder's name and business practices.
F. Beesley was instrumental to Purdey, T.Woodward and Froome to Holland, L. Taylor, Deeley and Edge to W. Richards, etc...

Browsing around, I have found "Auguste Lebeau" (sans Courally) guns such as this one going all the way to 1926, with the same SN system than the LCs.
So that brand was kept alive for a long time, after Auguste L. demise's.

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By the way I think that Anne-Marie Moermans has been remarkably successful in keeping the brand going in the worst possible times for the luxury hunting weapon business. The odds are very much against her.
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Originally Posted By: Robertovich
Pete, unfortunately there is a reason that I`m in a hurry to write about what I know. It would be grate to meet in Liege ... Maybe in the next life smirk

Igor


Igor,

Down the street from the Curtis is a smallish restaurant that is used by mostly locals. The jambon is good and the beer is cold. I will pay for the beer. cool

I was diagnosed 2 years ago. Luckily, the chemo is working. Keep fighting! wink

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PeteM #440532 04/04/16 01:36 AM
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Pete,

Hope dies last. It's true. Many thanks for your support.

Anything can happen.......if you will pay for the beer wink

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I just found a judgment dated Jan 8 1898 about the inheritance of Auguste L.
The affair is complex due to the bankruptcy of "Lebeau freres" in 1880.
It seems like Auguste had to repay his debt post bankruptcy, but failed to do it appropriately.
Therefore the bank tried to get the inheritance from AL's heirs who were also fighting among themselves.
He did not seem to have been married, but a Marie Lebeau was involved as well as some others.

Auguste's frere was named Jules. He seemed to have been out of the picture in 1898.

There is no mention of Courally whatsoever.

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Originally Posted By: WildCattle
I just found a judgment dated Jan 8 1898 about the inheritance of Auguste L.
The affair is complex due to the bankruptcy of "Lebeau freres" in 1880.
It seems like Auguste had to repay his debt post bankruptcy, but failed to do it appropriately.
Therefore the bank tried to get the inheritance from AL's heirs who were also fighting among themselves.
He did not seem to have been married, but a Marie Lebeau was involved as well as some others.

Auguste's frere was named Jules. He seemed to have been out of the picture in 1898.

There is no mention of Courally whatsoever.

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That's great! Belgian Court documents in civil cases confirm this information.

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Originally Posted By: Robertovich
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A great read. I lived for several years in Brussels and traveled to Liege in the 1980's but at the time did not know the history of Liege arms makers. I do know French ones. This has been an excellent history and artisanal lesson. Thanks. That gun is just...nice! And if you need some texts translated...I or wife can do. My youngest was born in Ixelles, Brussels.

Thanks for the nice review. Translation into French is a big challenge. Who will pay for this job?

Igor


Igor, I speak french. My wife is native French and speaks highly educated English as well. We'd be honored to translate your document....for free....if you'd like. And Courage mon ami.
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TOOK A GOOD LOOK AT THE LEBEAU 20 SLE. I decided to pass. This is a very high grade gun.


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Quit your job.
Turn off the TV.
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Originally Posted By: Argo44
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Originally Posted By: Argo44
A great read. I lived for several years in Brussels and traveled to Liege in the 1980's but at the time did not know the history of Liege arms makers. I do know French ones. This has been an excellent history and artisanal lesson. Thanks. That gun is just...nice! And if you need some texts translated...I or wife can do. My youngest was born in Ixelles, Brussels.

Thanks for the nice review. Translation into French is a big challenge. Who will pay for this job?

Igor


Igor, I speak french. My wife is native French and speaks highly educated English as well. We'd be honored to translate your document....for free....if you'd like. And Courage mon ami.

Thank you in advance. I need a few days to edit the text in English according to some documents. These new documents are already in the blog in Russian. Cordialement.

Igor

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