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I just read Dave Weber's comments in the now locked Richland 909 thread. My first instinct was to come back here and delete my previous post and just let Larry off the hook for posting false statements about me, and for continuing to subvert reality in order to divert attention from his disingenuous behavior.

Then I decided to instead post this portion of Larry's second PM to me after I had told him that I did not wish to have any off-forum discussions with him;



That comment right there was why I made a couple subsequent posts telling Larry he had his head up his posterior. I was hoping one of the usual hypocrite suspects would take me to task for it so I could show them how Larry operates in the shadows.
For the record, this was Larry trying to rewrite history. The NSSF was not even mentioned until much later in the Condor thread after Larry had repeatedly used the original data about lead bullet fragments in 53 out of 95 packets of ground venison to support his assertions about deer hunters being a big cause of lead poisoning in eagles. Nor did I read anything into the NRA letter I posted a link to. Also, I later gave Larry a link to the entire North Dakota study which in fact was 31 pages long including all of the methods, charts, tables, data, references, etc.

But for that, I get Larry pretending here to be a decent guy, and then sending me nasty harassing PM's telling me I have my head up my ass, after I told him not to contact me other than in the open forum.

So Dave, you can banish me if you think that's best. As you tell us, it's your sandbox. But I'm kinda hoping you'll first ask yourself if perhaps Larry brings things upon himself, and then runs to you for cover like a crybaby when someone like me refuses to let him get away with his B.S. Larry's got over 17,500 posts on this other BBS where he is equally arrogant-- http://www.notssmbbs.com/ so maybe he should just hide out there for a while if he can't take some heat which he brought on himself here. Your call. Thanks.

The effectiveness of #4 lead shot, comparing steel to lead etc . . . WAS a good topic. Lots of folks able to comment based on facts like down range velocity, personal experience, etc. I think those are the kinds of discussions most of us prefer.

You know Keith, I think it's amazing how much time you must waste searching this internet site to find old statements of the past which you believe support the fact that you aren't the only [censored] on this forum. You know what, stick it man. I am sure some others here are sick of your pathological attacks too. You really relish picking on people...if it's not nca, then it's Larry Brown, then it's me. Don't you have anything better to do? I'm done with this BS.

Do as I say, not as I do, eh Buzz?




It is B.S., and your comment is as dishonest and hypocritical as anything I've ever seen. Larry made a totally false statement about me a couple days ago. I nicely asked him to either prove that statement or retract and apologize. He could do neither, and you are perfectly OK with stuff like that. Funny you should mention nca225. I never gave a crap what he said about me, and mud flew both ways. But you are defending a person who posted vile filthy comments about my daughters. Even then, I never cried to Dave Weber. I handled it in my own way, and still have not forgiven or forgotten his filthy comments that he repeated and said he was glad he made. You sure know how to pick em'. Guys like you and Larry preach civility and staying on topic, but just hate it if I remind you that you do the same. And to you, that makes me the [censored]. What a joke.




Getting back on topic, I think this hunter might have made a clean kill if he had used #4 lead shot...

Shooting Liberals- Bloom County-

How many times have you copied and pasted that statement I made now, Keith? Several and since you keep posting it, I have to rescind my commitment to be done with this BS. Well, I admit I made that statement. However, since then, I have had congenial conversation with King and we have even discussed doing some fishing in Nova Scotia. So, not everything you dig up and see here is really as it seems. And since YOU gave me the finger, I say the same back to you. Also, I read your appeal to Dave re kicking you off, so it's pretty clear you feel vulnerable. I for one am hopeful you get a mandatory vacation. It would be good for this website being rid of you. Now, I am done with this BS. Go ahead, get the last word.....

If I felt vulnerable Buzz, I would have deleted my earlier posts. If Dave wishes to give me the boot while giving a pass to guys like you, Larry, the anti-gun Trolls King Brown and Ed Good, and especially your little buddy nca225, then so be it.

I have no doubt that you are now congenial with King. There are only a handful of (censored) who will go to bat for nca225, so you two are birds of a feather. I chose that quote you made intentionally, because I felt it killed two hypocritical birds with one stone. Next time, if there's a next time, I'll use something else you said.

Who knows, maybe I'll come back under a new name like Alvin Linden who is now posting as gunluvr... a young college GIRL who also posted on Memorial day last year about being a combat veteran and about enjoying his WIFE'S coffee. Or not. Or maybe I'll get banned for a while and come back and behave even worse like Ed Good. Yeah, we have some real frauds and hypocrites here, and someone like you must feel right at home. BTW, there was NOTHING about #4 lead shot in your post. Larry must be furious.

If I have to go, I want it to be just like this Buzz... telling the truth about guys like you.

Nine pages of this? Surely we could have solved 4s vs 6s some other way.

Perhaps all the questions we ask should have multiple choice answers like in high school😊. Then we would not have to listen to off the point answers.
example: Do you like #4 shot? ----yes, ------no

It'd be half the length, if that, if all the posts were on topic.

Buzz, it can be difficult. But the best way to deal with trolls is to ignore them. They know they can't start a thread about what a bad guy you are (or I am) and have it pass muster with Dave, so they always jump into discussions where they have zip to contribute. That's the best they can do, which is pretty pathetic.

Pathetic is the correct word. They can't help it. Ignore the mean and mischievous. Don't feed their ignorance.